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Manager Antonio Conte
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Jose getting this Spurs team to a Caraboa cup final and also having them at 1st/2nd till January last season is one of the best achievements of his career. This team is beyond finished.
Think he was saved by Kane and Son's form as they carried the side. Though you could argue that he got the best out of them.
Didn't say anything that we didn't already know
I dunno, I think he knew what he was getting in to, and understood the scale of the challenge. The moment he may regret it is if/when he doesn't get the backing he was promised to build an actually competent side here.
That'll be the crunch time. It was pretty obvious this wasn't going to be an overnight transformation, the rot in this squad goes far too deep for a new manager to come in mid-season and make everything great. Fans are gonna have to be patient and cross our fingers in the hope Levy has finally realised serious and competent investment is needed.
He mentioned more than about "still being happy to be here after 3 weeks". Sounds a bit worrying to me, though maybe I'm over-thinking it. Clearly we're even more shit than he expected if nothing else.
If it wasn’t before, it’s all too clear now the major clear out and rebuild that’s needed. I really don’t know if Conte has the patience for it. Over to you, Mr Chairman.
This has to be a fucking joke .. surely?
Swansea have won the Carabao cup. Villa made the final the year before, Southampton not long before that and teams like Cardiff have been there in recent history too. We beat Chelsea on penalties and that was it, it was fucking Brentford in a semi-final.
And having one purple patch then the team collapsing in to mid-table mediocrity and losing 3-0 to a Croatian side in Europe isn't an achievement, even for this side. Ryan fucking Mason had a slight upturn in results when he took over from Jose ffs.
Perhaps.
Honestly, if Levy doesn't back him and he ends up being sacked/resigning, that should be the big moment in terms of a vast majority of the fans turning on ENIC/Levy. Any faith or goodwill left from the Poch era will be gone at that point, nobody will believe they can get us competing again.
I have my suspicions that the Conte appointment was a desperate move to appease fans and still have huge doubts that we'll actually see the big windows we need, but wait and see I suppose..
Part of me is glad a performance like this has happened. Imagine we won all our games until Jan? That would give that tight bastard Levy an excuse not too spend any money. Us getting embarrassed like that to a bunch of goat herders and Conte’s comments tonight, means Levy has got nowhere too hide anymore. Put up or shut up Levy. Sort this rancid squad out once and for all
What if levys plan is to get as much juice out of Conte as possible until he resigns (as that means no compensation) and then Mason would have 'learnt' enough to be able to do what Conte does because this squad is amazing with world class stars like dele , winks, davies, sanchez etc.
After 3 weeks I'm starting to realise I should have waited a bit longer and got the job I really wanted at United.
I don't think Levy can allow him to leave soon
Who else is good enough to turn this squad round, demanding some leave in Jan and others in summer plus bring in some players who want to play
This exactly. I've been ambivalent about the Levy thing, for reasons expressed by many on here before, but after the vociferous revolt during united, Levy has nowhere else to go. For the future of our club, tonight doesn't matter as much as Conte's words and the forthcoming window, and now much more this one than the summer one.
This really is a defining point.
Never wanted us to lose, but, along with a United mate, we bot ha greed before that the loser of the match would end up being the winner long term. When we were 3 down v Liverpool with AVB, I thought we're gonna lose anyway, only way we're guaranteed a new direction is to lose by 5. we did and we got one.
This competition, 'a trophy that you get laughed at for being in, and laughed at for winning, may well be our saving grace for telling a no nonsense, world class, says it as it is, manager that a clear out is needed NOW.
Watching City last night, who tactically we were the equal of for many years under Poch, despite their spending and reserves, and the inability of most of our players to be able to control, pass and move tonight was frightening as it was enlightening.
So, sanguine,
not measuring lows after Paco, Zagreb,
as many have said, we're not good enough to compete with drop downs from Europa. Best we don't get through.
Many have derided Poch for not winning during those 2 good years but it helped Conte / Chelsea and Leicester from being out of Europe (we even knocked Leicester out of the FA cup to help them) and played Chelsea I think just after playing Juve away; Conte had a whole week to train them the whole year.
Next two months is crucial. Levy has nowhere to go now except do what Conte wants. His shock reaction after United and what it must have took to get him in, plus Paratricis words, means he has to.
Tell me where touched you.
We beat City with Nuno and with Jose as well.
This is the thing.... Everything's been blown wide open now.....Fans back in the stadium.... Accounts show a secure platform even if we did lose a bundle of dosh thanks to covid.... Despite a false start to the season we have a top manager.... Our league finish is perfectly salvageable and we're still in THREE cups....... We're at a crossroads with the potential for a bright new era.... It's up to us as a club to embrace it.
If peeps wanna call that "nowhere left to hide for Levy" then so be it.... Many of our much criticised players certainly have run out of places to hide too.
Between January and the summer window, everyone will get their answers and one way or another the psychological torture of the last few years fan bickering will be over soon one way or another.... The punchline is coming.
In the meantime; all that matters for the next 2 months is grinding out points in the league.
......It's entirely pointless peeps pissing and moaning about the squad and floating all the tired, cliched conspiracies and doubtery.