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Manager Antonio Conte
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Yep it was. I guess my point was more about listening to your manager and getting proper class in to solve their problems. The first position we clearly needs improving on in Jan was RWB. They should have proper gone for it and filled that role with calibre.
You really think our biggest problem is RWB?
You've not seen our midfield duo of Hoinks and Winkberg completely bypassed by football heavyweights such as Burnley and Boro?
Sure, RWB is a weak area, one where we're not really getting much attacking benefit from. But we have attackers to cover that. We don't have anyone fit to cast Hoinks and Winkberg out of the starting 11 at the moment.
Thing is I think we could break teams down if we stopped persisting with the 343 with non creative Cms. There are some creative players in the squad they just need utilising better.
We have no real plan B
I agree with you! But didn’t Conte say first priority is RWB? My point is that if the manager has identified this for the way they want to play, then that should be the priority recruit, like Klopp did with goalie and CB.
My top choice would be to get a CM who can create, be that a box to box type, or someone who can have freedom to create while Skipp plays destroyer. In see that as more important but clearly Conte doesn’t.
I think a lot of us would agree that we could probably do with 5-7 new first teamers as there is so much shit in the squad, but I would rather the board get 1-2 proper high calibre signings and spunk more budget than 5-7 middling players
Can Moura (or Berg) be any worse than CP3O or the tinman?
Kulu, Berg or Moura could play in a 3 IMO.
Agree with this. Rice, Bissouma and James would see us challenge for the PL (with some luck re: injuries).
Would obv cost c.£200M
No... That's a figment of someone's imagination.
There was a list of positions that surfaced from the rumour mill, but Conte never spoke publicly in such detail.
Seeing the 'why doesn't he change to XYZ?' question a lot... My guess is that he simply doesn't want to tax some of our intellectually challenged players and sticks to his guns.
I've all but written off top 4 at this point, but I've seen enough to know that we're going to go in the right direction and need Conte to drag us back up. I think he'll be backed, with caveats. And if he stays then Kane will.
I've all but written off top 4 at this point, but I've seen enough to know that we're going to go in the right direction and need Conte to drag us back up. I think he'll be backed, with caveats. And if he stays then Kane will.
I don't think we have one weakest area.
MF, RWB and CB are all major problems. Fixing one of them doesn't do much because the others areas are so poor and will hold us back.
Skipp and Benta have potential but yes, very weak
Our back 3 is ok, it’s the ridiculous Sanchez that’s a major problem and the imposter has been found out now
RWB is pure comedy - he needs to create an alternative from Lucas, Kulu, Berg or even Son
I think that if we want to be at the level of City, Chelsea, Liverpool or close to it we can only have one of Skipp or Bentancur starting. If United continue to hire incompetent managers (doubtful) I think that Skipp-Bentancur would be good enough to get us 4h-6th.
Davies and Dier are not close to good enough for top 4. Both need to be replaced. Romero has great talent but looks like he could use an experienced player next to him to help with his development and fit with how Romero plays.
Stupid attitude/logic.... Any problem fixed will improve us.
Possibly but too early to say on either. They might drift into Championship mediocrity like Wankberg, or they might kick on and really shine (talking Skipp/Benta). Give them time
Dier has been good this season and decent in the past. He’s also been shit in the past so I suspect that’s down to illness/injury. He’s definitely good enough for top 4.
Royal, Sanchez, Doherty, Wankberg. These 5 are the stranglers that will kill all form and block us finishing in the top 5. Happy to have a fight with you re: Dier and Davies
Dier has been vastly overrated this season. He misses a few games and people create a BS narrative that we need him in defense to do some yelling and blaming everyone around but when he plays we see how shit he is. He is not anywhere close to top 4 level. City, Liverpool, Chelsea all have 5 CB's better than him in their squad.
RWB and Midfield both need massive upgrades, if we only fix 1 it will mean we still struggle.
I just don’t see that take on Dier. Odd mistake but he looks strong and passing the ball well. I don’t know enough about those 3 to say they have five better cb’s but he would start for Utd, West Ham and definitely be 3rd choice (at least) at Goons
Agree on RWB and CM but it’s so awful it’s impossible not to improve both.
His passing is poor, I think he benefits from being around poor players. For example his passing is nowhere close to Jan or Toby's and I think those players are the level we need to be looking at.
I doubt he starts for United over Maguire or Varane. He is similar to Lindelof so would be the preference of the manager over who starts.
Zouma (cat kicking aside), Ogbonna and Diop are all clearly better than Dier, although the last two seem to struggle with health.
5 CB's was harsh he would be the 5th choice at City, Pool, Chelsea behind Dias, Laporte, Stones, Ake and VVD, Konate, Matip, Gomez. Chelsea has Silva, Chalobah, Christensen, Rudiger, Azpilicueta (although he plays at FB a lot).