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Manager Antonio Conte

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Skint Juventus will spend £30m to sack Allegri to pay another £20m to hire Conte.

Sure.
There will 100% be something in this, Allegri has been total shite since coming back, he's a gonna for sure.

I don't know enough about their financial situation to know if this is something they could do. But the issue I think wouldn't be about getting him/paying him and paying off Allegri, it would be about, do they then have the financials to rebuild the team (I'd say no), how long would that take? (I'd say longer than it would take at Spurs).

The big thing for me is it's all about Conte. He's still a complete unknown regarding whats' in his head. On one hand, everything he's been saying this season (and end of last) has been about building something, taking time etc....(BUT he's not signed a new contract, I don't even know if he's been offered one). The other thing is the PL is where every top manager wants to be and he's here at one of the top 6 Clubs in the league.
 
Tancredi Palmieri is literally bottom of the barrel. He isn't even a journalist. Any Juve fan will know this "report" isn't true. He is taking a shot in the dark because Allegri has been terrible and Conte hasn't renewed with us yet.
 
I think what football is showing currently across Europe is how the big name managers aren't exactly all that much better than the up and comers. Tuchel sacked. Allegri ballsing up majorly at Juve. Conte being a bit weird for us currently. Nagelsmann ballsing up at Bayern. Klopp struggling. Simeone unusually flustered at Atletico.
Not particularly.

Newer/less recognise names are coming to the forefront in terms of development of clubs atm.

Potter obviously just got his first ''big'' job. Xavi is doing well at Barca in his first ''big job''. Pioli just won Serie A (his first major honour as manager). De Zerbi just got the Brighton job and is one of the best young mangers about. Gallardo in Argentina (who I wanted before Conte became a real option for us) is one of the best in the world. Ruben Amorim at Sporting, as we saw very recently, is extremely talented and made Conte look a little silly.

Conte lost a game; in what way does that amount to him behaving strangely?

Nagglesman is in his first big job.

Klopp's seemingly entered the same phase he did at the tail end of his time at BVB.... Question surrounding him is whether or not he can transition that squad quick enough to stay on top.

Things were already a bit of a clusterfuck at Juve before Allegri returned.... It wasn't he who has presided over their fall from dominance.

Zavi having been mediocre with a mere 'ok' squad has now started to pull up a few trees since his board have spent an absolute fortune this past summer..... Hardly an indication of Barca's upswing being a direct result of his management prowess.

As for De Zerbi.... How does him getting a job at 'mighty' Brighton correlate in any meaningful way to your suggestion that the big names are on their way down/out?

Potter has earned a chance at a big club..... Nothing more.

Why no mention of Pep or Ancellotti for counter-context?



TBH, all you're doing is conflating lot of differing scenarios into a ham-fisted conclusion.

There's always a next gen; not sure there's any more to see here than that.
 
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Conte lost a game; in what way does that amount to him behaving strangely?

Nagglesman is in his first big job.

Klopp's seemingly entered the same phase he did at the tail end of his time at BVB.... Question surrounding him is whether or not he can transition that squad quick enough to stay on top.

Things were already a bit of a clusterfuck at Juve before Allegri returned.... It wasn't he who has presided over their fall from dominance.

Zavi having been mediocre with a mere 'ok' squad has no started to pull up a few trees since his board have spent an absolute fortune this past summer..... Hardly an indication of Barca's upswing being a direct result of his management prowess.

As for De Zerbi.... How does him getting a job at 'mighty' Brighton correlate in any meaningful to your suggestion that the big names are on their way down/out?

Potter has earned a chance at a big club..... Nothing more.

Why no mention of Pep or Ancellotti for conter-context?



TBH, all you're doing is conflating lot of differing scenarios into a ham-fisted conclusion.

There's always a next gen; not sure there's any more to see here than that.
acting weirdly in his stubborness in terms of RB and central midfield and the uptake in performances when he isn't so rigid.

Lol at saying Xavi's improvement is due to spending money then mentioning Klopp. Pep etc. They've all seen vast amount of money spent on their squads.

Ancelotti is Ancelotti. The best of his generation and maybe the best of all time.

Yes, and the next-gen is currently outperforming the old-gen.
 
There will 100% be something in this, Allegri has been total shite since coming back, he's a gonna for sure.

I don't know enough about their financial situation to know if this is something they could do. But the issue I think wouldn't be about getting him/paying him and paying off Allegri, it would be about, do they then have the financials to rebuild the team (I'd say no), how long would that take? (I'd say longer than it would take at Spurs).

The big thing for me is it's all about Conte. He's still a complete unknown regarding whats' in his head. On one hand, everything he's been saying this season (and end of last) has been about building something, taking time etc....(BUT he's not signed a new contract, I don't even know if he's been offered one). The other thing is the PL is where every top manager wants to be and he's here at one of the top 6 Clubs in the league.
Since paratici and Conte arrived, the Italian media are better placed than before on any info/scoops.
Would be nice if Conte signed a new deal soon and put this to bed, but I think this may well rumble on until the summer.
Hopefully not as this might impact potential incomings depending on who the manager is.
 
There will 100% be something in this, Allegri has been total shite since coming back, he's a gonna for sure.

I don't know enough about their financial situation to know if this is something they could do. But the issue I think wouldn't be about getting him/paying him and paying off Allegri, it would be about, do they then have the financials to rebuild the team (I'd say no), how long would that take? (I'd say longer than it would take at Spurs).

The big thing for me is it's all about Conte. He's still a complete unknown regarding whats' in his head. On one hand, everything he's been saying this season (and end of last) has been about building something, taking time etc....(BUT he's not signed a new contract, I don't even know if he's been offered one). The other thing is the PL is where every top manager wants to be and he's here at one of the top 6 Clubs in the league.
That guy is as bad a source as we could have for this info. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Conte was open to Juve. PL is incredibly difficult to win with Ars, Utd, Chels and ourselves all improving at the moment. Liverpool maybe regressing to the pack a bit and City probably maintaining a seriously high level. No doubt it's an exciting challenge for a coach, but I've no doubt he'd win several league titles if he returns to Juve. Hopefully he's happy to take on the challenge here and there's nothing in it. Wouldn't be surprised to see Tuchel -> Juventus.
 
acting weirdly in his stubborness in terms of RB and central midfield and the uptake in performances when he isn't so rigid.

The fact is he's always been stubborn...... Even when he was winning things.

......Not a clue how this correlates to the idea that the big names (as a collective) are a spent force.

He tried something and it worked..... How is that a theme that runs beyond this last game?

Lol at saying Xavi's improvement is due to spending money then mentioning Klopp. Pep etc. They've all seen vast amount of money spent on their squads.

You've completely missed the point..... Besides Klopp has won titles whilst financially outgunned at 2 different clubs.

Ancelotti is Ancelotti. The best of his generation and maybe the best of all time.

Fact remains, he's still representing at the very top for the proverbial old guard...... As is Pep.
 
That guy is as bad a source as we could have for this info. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Conte was open to Juve. PL is incredibly difficult to win with Ars, Utd, Chels and ourselves all improving at the moment. Liverpool maybe regressing to the pack a bit and City probably maintaining a seriously high level. No doubt it's an exciting challenge for a coach, but I've no doubt he'd win several league titles if he returns to Juve. Hopefully he's happy to take on the challenge here and there's nothing in it. Wouldn't be surprised to see Tuchel -> Juventus.

Winners and those of a strong mindset don't run from challenges especially if his objective isn't complete.
 
I think what football is showing currently across Europe is how the big name managers aren't exactly all that much better than the up and comers. Tuchel sacked. Allegri ballsing up majorly at Juve. Conte being a bit weird for us currently. Nagelsmann ballsing up at Bayern. Klopp struggling. Simeone unusually flustered at Atletico.

There's reaching then there's this...
 
Also Airfixx Airfixx , on your belittling of Brighton. You realise the dismissal of a smaller club and the potential of a ''lower-rated'' manager in such a role is exactly how bigger clubs treat/ed us.

It's exactly the kind of thing I'd imagine United or City fans will have said when we hired Poch. ''Oh, he's joined mighty Spurs has he? nothing to worry about''.

Not so many seasons later we're finishing 2nd and reaching the CL final. Now I'm not saying Brighton will reach those heights. But the relative equivalent for them would be reaching Europe/CL. Which, is not beyond the realms of possibility for them.
 
Also Airfixx Airfixx , on your belittling of Brighton. You realise the dismissal of a smaller club and the potential of a ''lower-rated'' manager in such a role is exactly how bigger clubs treat/ed us.

It's exactly the kind of thing I'd imagine United or City fans will have said when we hired Poch. ''Oh, he's joined mighty Spurs has he? nothing to worry about''

It's not belittling Brighton (they're doing ok atm; good for them!).... It's all about context..... Sorry to say, but if anything it's belittling your use of their new manager as an example even though he's yet to manage a single game for them.

Some guy's doing a good job managing whoever is topping Div 2 atm; doesn't amount to an indication that Pep should be sweating his job does it.

Not so many seasons later were finishing 2nd and reaching the CL final. Now I'm not saying Brighton will reach those heights. But the relative equivalent for them would be reaching Europe/CL. Which, is not beyond the realms of possibility for them.

As above.... The geezer hasn't even managed 1 game; let alone got them into Europe!

This is getting increasingly silly; the more you chase the tail of your narrative.
 
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I don’t understand this trend of looking at alternative league tables. It looks weak as fuck. The one showing results based off matches from last season… what the fuck even is that lol? The only table that matters is the real one.
 
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