IMO we need to replace Kane, Son, Davies. Dier, Sanchez, Lloris. Royal, Doherty Sess.
Kane doesn't press anymore and lots of his goals are from penalties/set pieces.
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Kane doesn't press anymore and lots of his goals are from penalties/set pieces.
Meh... You're stopping short of conclusively stating an opinion.
Perhaps you didn't ever want to sign Conte; in which case touche, but he's here now and done a lot of good so far.
Levy has a decision to make: Do we offer Conte a new contract?
Do you think he should or not?
Kane's got 10 goals already and some of his passing yesterday was beautiful. If it wasn't for Robobastard at City, he'd be leading the pack.
Sonny won the golden boot a few months back. Yeah, he's off-balance at the moment, but other top players like Salah have had their weird spells as well.
They're two of the top-rated players on the planet. Keep the faith.
But they're not pressing or winning enough balls upfield.
Yes Kane is still good at passing but his goals are from penalties or other set pieces.
When did we last score in the PL from open play?
My history of posts will testify that I've never been a total fan of Conte ball. I much prefer a manager who has his team playing with the ball and presses high (there are numerous variations of this and the list of managers who adopt this are numerous - not all of them proven, some of them pretenders, others are elite).
But Conte is elite and we have to allow him to build his team and have it playing how he wants. He is a million miles away from Mourinho, Mourinho is a has been, whilst Conte is current. There should be no comparison. But just to underscore, when Conte ball is working it's not hoofball, it's really nice to watch (still not my preference) as it's played through the thirds of the pitch from back to front. But perhaps an even bigger impact on his teams is what he brings off the pitch, the stuff we don't see every day, the structure of the club that deliver the players to the pitch (training, fitness, nutrition, demands on recruitment etc). I like the profile of players that we've brought into the Club since he's been here, the fact that a few of them haven't played yet is what happens with him, players only get selected to play once he's confident they have his patterns understood (or are better than other to deliver what he requires).
I'm also not worried if he leaves as I still like the players that we've brought in (under the dinosaur he was busy signing Toby no leggs to a new multi-year contract with massive wages and bringing in Gedson, Lo Celso, Doherty, Reguillon (who I was quite keen on before he started playing), Rodon, Joe Hart, Bale & Vinicius, Bergwijn (who I liked but we can't claim was successful). The only success was PEH). Most of Conte's old sides didn't drop off when he left, they continued well under new management. We've also bought in some exciting young talent too that if Conte were to leave (I absolutely don't see this happening) I think would suit a progressive new coach.
Conte has done a fantastic job so far, he's had a big transformation on where we are. This season has been disappointing because of how we've played in some games, I think there was an expectation that as we finished so well last season that there will be a straight-line improvement from there (there absolutely hasn't been) but football doesn't work like that and this season unlike any other is going to be the strangest one we've ever experienced because the is a bloody World Cup smack bang in the middle of it.
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Kane is scoring at a good rate. But his overall game, particularly off the ball, is worse. He's completely unable to press consistently and Son is not much better. Which makes us unable to play on the front foot when in defense.
They are great. But it is obvious that they have dipped in certain aspects of their game.
Yes and Son too, unless we change Kane into ATM player.You want to sell Kane simply for the fact that he doesn't press?
Not pressing is just giving the opposition time to pick their passes and modes of play.
The manager doesn’t want them to
Set piece goals don't count?
Being a so-called penalty "specialist" is also a skill; not a negative.
He's still able to create and play-make better than the majority of STs currently in the game.
Should the intent be to constantly evolve and improve the squad...? Absolutely.
However; Kane is current good enough.
We are of no threat during open play unless we're playing a bottom half of the league team. It's only against Brighton that we have beaten anyone near the top.
Many of the matches that we won, or drew also, we looked second best and had a lucky result.
I don't think Harry's ever been an uber-presser. He's ok at running at goalies, but for as long as I can remember he mainly jogs around looking to narrow angles and waiting to receive, hold and turn, earn a foul, or play it on to other attackers. I'd like it if he was a bit more aggressive but I'll settle for his passing and goal tally.
Sonny presses, but mainly to force the oppo to make a duff pass. He barely ever wins the ball. Actually, my head jolted the other day when he did just that because it's so rare.
Rubbish..... We tried to hire Conte in the summer.... Before Nuno came into the picture.
Nuno was the 'short-term' hire cos our targets (Nagglesman, Conte, Potter, ETH) dried up.
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We're not a high pressing team though?
Seems a bit pointless wanting to get rid of a player if we don't need him to do something that isn't required of him.
Also he's on par with other top players for pressing:
This has no succinct relevance to the post you replied to.
I would like to see more of that which is why my fingers are crossed for Kulu to return sooner rather than later.
Are you happy how we've been playing this season?
I was happy when Conte arrived but have always thought it's a short term arrangement.
I am unhappy about the way he has us passing the ball about at the back, it's always a heart in a mouth situation or i'm peeping between my fingers at it.
Conte did steady the ship last season and the signings of Kulusevski and bentancur were both good.
But just look how we're currently playing, we're like rabbits caught in headlamps. It seems to me that being 3rd is flattering us.
Do you not want to hold Levy to his statement about free flowing attacking football, I can only guess that you've been applauding our recent games and footballing style?
So a bit like the days when we relied on Ginola to save the day every match.