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Manager Antonio Conte

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GOAT GOAT In there with maybe the world's fastest ever disagree. Fair play.

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But not a word or opinion on what he dosent agree with...
 
Fuck him off before he takes the piss at the end of the season and walks anyway
This thing is he or isn’t he what the fick is that about. He ever wants to commit and club can then plan the next year with him. Otherwise let us know if he doesn’t want to say so that we can start looking at manager. Also the transfer dynamic may need to change. Instead of looking to splunk billions on defenders another manager may want to buy more attacking players like Kanes replacement.
 
Puts Kane on there with a bunch of defensive lumps that can't create for him.

Puts on creators and takes off Kane.

Spence showed more attacking intent than either of our 2 failure RWBs.

Wtf is he doing.
Yes exactly I said that as well. Why play kane if your not gonna be able to create anything for him. Sess did not put one cross in last night. Why not give Gil a go and play perri at LWB. At least we’d still have Perry’s crossing ability. We lose that playing him in the middle. Madness!
 
Why does capital with the fans even come into it, and sack him for what?
  • Qualifying for the knock-out stages of the CL
  • being 4th going into the WC where some players are obviously nervous of injuries?
  • For having a depleted squad due to injuries and not trusting fringe players?
  • For saying to compete, we need two more transfer windows?
  • For saying lots of games in a short space of time has fatigued players?
  • For getting knocked out of a nothing cup
I get some of the football has been shite but I can't help but think he's looking at the bigger picture, at the entire season and not just the first part. I don't believe anything that has happened, or that he has said is different from the plans at the start of the season. If we go on a bad run and drop below 8th then maybe questions will start to be asked. But for now, apart from the style, on paper we look to be doing ok.

Sure some fans will moan. I've lost count of the times i've read:

"I don't care if we lose, just as long as we give it a go and the football looks nice"

I call utter BS on that, those same people would be calling for his head if after playing well, we didn't see a game out, or if individual mistakes happened. There's no way the melts in match thread would be happy, no way.

At the end of the day, we need more quality depth, and this isn't achieved overnight. We've spent some decent money, and in large bought well since last winter. If this continues I don't see any reason why we won't transition to more expansive type of football.
Great post.
 
Not gonna bicker over merely 1 player..... 2/3rds.... 3/5ths... Whatever.

There will always be flux and residue at the bottom end of the pecking order....... A so-called "completed" rebuild won't eradicate that outright.

I sense you're steering us towards the unrealistic utopian expectation of 25 top players, but I think the current City squad is the closest any EPL team has come close to that and that's an unprecedented financial echelon.



Pre-summer 2023 view.

Hugo
(Forster, Whitman)

XXX / Romero / XXX / XXX / Perisic
(Dier, Davies)
(Udogie, Spence...... Or keep Doherty if Spence goes on loan.)


PEH / B'cur
(Skipp, Bissouma, Sarr)

Kulu / Kane / Son
(Richarlison, Gil..... Maybe one of Parrot or Scarlett?)

= 22/23 players.

Sell:
Emerson, Sanchez, Tanganga, Lucas , Sessengon
+ those currently on loan (and as above, maybe Doherty).
I see. I agree with most of your observations there. I'm what I understand is referred to as a 'legacy' supporter these days. My Spurs journey began in the Autumn of 1977. First game attended was Coventry away 1981. I attended regularly at WHL from 87 - 98 but became a Paxton Road season ticket holder from 99 until 08. I packed up going after Spurs won the League Cup under Ramos. I was disgusted at the treatment of Martin Jol tbh. Never got over it. I had ENIC weighed up by then and decided direct action was the best way forward having been coerced into renewing for several seasons due to the waiting list.

I feel the need to explain this so you understand I have no Utopian expectations of THFC, ENIC, Levy, Conte or indeed anything connected to the N17 experience in general.

Over the years I frequented, The Park, The Milford, The Antwerp, The Connaught Tavern, The Ship, The Coach and Horses, Haringey Irish Centre and The Bell and Hare. Not all of them on the same match day of course but over a 15 year period of serious drinking; I got into all of these places before home games.

I've also been to most of the grounds in the top 2 English divisions on my travels and a fair few others too. Every home game was a 200 mile round trip for me as I live near Coventry.

I've done my bit for Spurs.

Utopia my arse.
 
I see. I agree with most of your observations there. I'm what I understand is referred to as a 'legacy' supporter these days. My Spurs journey began in the Autumn of 1977. First game attended was Coventry away 1981. I attended regularly at WHL from 87 - 98 but became a Paxton Road season ticket holder from 99 until 08. I packed up going after Spurs won the League Cup under Ramos. I was disgusted at the treatment of Martin Jol tbh. Never got over it. I had ENIC weighed up by then and decided direct action was the best way forward having been coerced into renewing for several seasons due to the waiting list.

I feel the need to explain this so you understand I have no Utopian expectations of THFC, ENIC, Levy, Conte or indeed anything connected to the N17 experience in general.

Over the years I frequented, The Park, The Milford, The Antwerp, The Connaught Tavern, The Ship, The Coach and Horses, Haringey Irish Centre and The Bell and Hare. Not all of them on the same match day of course but over a 15 year period of serious drinking; I got into all of these places before home games.

I've also been to most of the grounds in the top 2 English divisions on my travels and a fair few others too. Every home game was a 200 mile round trip for me as I live near Coventry.

I've done my bit for Spurs.

Utopia my arse.

You seem to have got the wrong end of the stick of that comment....... I didn't question your support.

God speed.
 
I think the current City squad is the closest any EPL team has come close to that and that's an unprecedented financial echelon.
This is painful but I think the Woolwich side that contained Viera, Bergkamp, Pires etc played the best football I've seen. I liked the United team with Kanchelskis and Giggs too. Very entertaining football played by both.
 
This is painful but I think the Woolwich side that contained Viera, Bergkamp, Pires etc played the best football I've seen. I liked the United team with Kanchelskis and Giggs too. Very entertaining football played by both.

Yep. Two undeniably cracking teams.

I don't particularly enjoy watching City play....... Just referring to the extreme strength in depth. It's a whole new level.
 
Yep. Two undeniably cracking teams.

I don't particularly enjoy watching City play....... Just referring to the extreme strength in depth. It's a whole new level.
I think the Haaland signing has killed off the EPL. Nobody is getting close to them now unless he is seriously injured or leaves. Everyone else is playing for runners up.

I want to see Spurs win the league once in my lifetime. The goalposts have moved so far away from that being possible in the short term that my interest and expectations have dipped to late 90's levels.

Without serious investment Spurs are going one way.
 
It’s not a great post. It’s the same shit we have heard from Conte backers every time.

1. Getting us into top four last season was great. But it’s not like it was a miracle. We had a talented squad and were fortunate that Woolwich choked at Newcastle. We played great for the second half of the season but still slipped up a few times.

2. Being fourth right now. Again, lucky Liverpool and Chelsea (both teams that have beat us) are playing worse than us or else we would be 6th. We have been outplayed in more games than not this season. We have not scored in the first half 8 straight games and have gone 2-0 down in 5 straight domestic games. It’s pathetic for the talent we have.

3. Injuries to Richarlison and Kulu hurt. No doubt. But not trying fringe players is all on Conte. He gives them one chance to play and if they make a minor mistake they are gone. Or in Spence’s case, not even a chance. You need to play players consistently to get them in form. Not one game a month.

4. Conte has been crying about transfer windows since day 1 and is still saying “two windows away”

5. Maybe if Conte rotated our players wouldn’t be so tired. Every other team does it but Conte won’t.

6. Getting knocked out is one thing. Being embarrassed by playing our A team and losing to a relegation B team is the problem.
 
2. Being fourth right now. Again, lucky Liverpool and Chelsea (both teams that have beat us) are playing worse than us or else we would be 6th. We have been outplayed in more games than not this season. We have not scored in the first half 8 straight games and have gone 2-0 down in 5 straight domestic games. It’s pathetic for the talent we have.
Agree with most of your post but not this.

For one, we didn’t lose to Chelsea. And secondly, not every big 6 team is going to play great all the time. Liverpool have been a bit unlucky and should be closer to us. Chelsea, on the other hand, have been terrible by the numbers and should be even further behind. They have an xG of -4. That’s getting outplayed more than not. We are at +7.

We are on a 70.5 point pace which is typically good enough for 4th. I’m not thrilled with it, but it’s not like our rivals have been any worse than normal.
 
Agree with most of your post but not this.

For one, we didn’t lose to Chelsea. And secondly, not every big 6 team is going to play great all the time. Liverpool have been a bit unlucky and should be closer to us. Chelsea, on the other hand, have been terrible by the numbers and should be even further behind. They have an xG of -4. That’s getting outplayed more than not. We are at +7.

We are on a 70.5 point pace which is typically good enough for 4th. I’m not thrilled with it, but it’s not like our rivals have been any worse than normal.
You’re right, we drew against Chelsea.

Not every big six team will be great, I agree but nobody expected this collapse from Liverpool and I think most has had Chelsea better then this. Their struggles are making us look better then we currently are.

We have been outplayed by Newcastle, Nottm Forrest (2 times), West Ham, Wolves, and Sporting. I’m not expecting to dominate every match but we should easily win half of those at minimum.

If we are serious about this team winning a trophy in the next year or two, changes are needed from Conte as much as they are from the club/players.
 
Why does capital with the fans even come into it, and sack him for what?
  • Qualifying for the knock-out stages of the CL
  • being 4th going into the WC where some players are obviously nervous of injuries?
  • For having a depleted squad due to injuries and not trusting fringe players?
  • For saying to compete, we need two more transfer windows?
  • For saying lots of games in a short space of time has fatigued players?
  • For getting knocked out of a nothing cup
I’m with you all the way apart from the nothing cup. My kids are now in their late teens (properly supporting since they were around six) and have never experienced the thrill of seeing us lift a trophy. Seeing me kiss my coffee mug when we beat Marine FC 5 - 0 doesn’t cut it.
 
Agree with most of your post but not this.

For one, we didn’t lose to Chelsea. And secondly, not every big 6 team is going to play great all the time. Liverpool have been a bit unlucky and should be closer to us. Chelsea, on the other hand, have been terrible by the numbers and should be even further behind. They have an xG of -4. That’s getting outplayed more than not. We are at +7.

We are on a 70.5 point pace which is typically good enough for 4th. I’m not thrilled with it, but it’s not like our rivals have been any worse than normal.
Not sure that’s true. Liverpool have lost twice as many matches this season as they did in the whole of last season (and were lucky against us) and Chelsea have already lost 4 matches in 13 when they only lost 6 all last season so that would indicate that our rivals have been worse than normal.
 
Yep. Two undeniably cracking teams.

I don't particularly enjoy watching City play....... Just referring to the extreme strength in depth. It's a whole new level.
Watching City play football is like watching a robot programmed to recreate a famous painting, what you see on the canvas can be as beautiful as anything you may imagine, but there isn't any art there...

I don't care how many goals they score, like Chelsea before them, watching City bores me to tears.
 
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