He won 12 or 13 league games in a row at Chelsea.
We're a top 4, CL quarter finals team at best currently. Seems to me he comes pretty close.
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Manager Antonio Conte
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We're a top 4, CL quarter finals team at best currently. Seems to me he comes pretty close.
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They weren't in Europe that season and were out of the LC in October.
Yes only reason they won the league imo, typical it had to be when we had a brilliant year.
Every team benefits from one game a week though, less disruption, travelling, less fatigue, less injuries, a settled side and loads of time to implement and work on your tactics.
Conte does things quickly, gets teams challenging within a year or two and pushes the board to back him. Relatively speaking (compared to rivals in our league), we're probably the weakest squad he's inherited. We've brought in quite a few players but, being honest, we still need quite a few, especially defensively.
Arteta has had more than twice as long, was allowed to finish outside the top 4 on 3 occasions (I think) and has kept his job and been backed substantially in the transfer market.
I'm not sure anyone we bring in will be aafforded that much patience or backing. The future worries me to be honest.
Yes... That much is fair.
It's the level of oppo that we exit at the hands of that is less excusable to me..... And last week's media bollocks (all done to death so not worth another re-hash.)
Yes, the future feels uncertain... It always does before the new guy comes into view; but reading between the lines of what you've just said, we've had the best of what we're likely to get out of Conte anyway.
Maybe so
But the little bit of an inkling he might be ok and looking like he could build momentum was actually winning some silverware with a very shit squad in his first season.
Probably from then to now you could see year on year growth and a club with a clear indentity taken through unpopular decisions and a change of transfer philosiphy into growing a side that could play good entertaining football and looked fairly solid at the back for the first time in years was the reason the man was given patience as a manager.
We do not have a clear id as a club under Anybody since Pochettino left and Conte will guarentee (other than being a boring as fuck team to watch we'll play 3 cb's every game against every opposition and are far too pedictable).
Anybody who could actually get a tune out the squad currently available then write your name down and we can draw a name out of a hat thats how desperate we are right now.
God save Spurs
Because Conte won't do it without backing even though he is only a signing or 2 away from turning us around
Or Nuno before him
Jose "serial winner" Mourinho couldnt do it either
Pochettino couldnt either but we came very close under him and atleast played great football.
If im Levy right now i would either get the manager to state publicly he wants to stay on next season and clear any cloud of controversy or sack him on the international break and look to bring in the next Roberto De Zerbi.
For all the bad we see in this side this season and negativity around our non existing attacking football we are still the 3rd highest scoring side in the league.
Look at Richi against Forrest when that player has got the bit between his teeth hes a machine a really solid performance after the controversy of the week before with his comments and was unlucky his goal was ruled out because he deserved it.
CONTE - SIGNING (he'll know that the best way to get the best from this player is to unleash him when he is pissed off)
PEDRO PORRO - awful on his debut yet he has impressed me since
looks like he could potentially be deadly from set pieces and will be a massive plus in time with assists again a CONTE signing
BENTANCUR AND KULUSEVSKI -CONTE signings - slotted into the side like clockwork and can produce in big moments.
YES I KNOW our central defence are shocking and no doubt Conte will have a plan for that too but you know what we could possibly only be a couple of signings away from being a great side if we have a little faith in Antonio Conte too. ( god knows he has had an awful year full of personal grief and turmoil with ill health) yet we still sit 4th in the league.
Emerson Royal dare i say it as he used to be the butt of most of my jokes at work seems to finally of turned a corner and looks solid when played - possibly Conte lining him up to play rcb
The player in my opinion that we have never replaced is Moussa Dembele and you know what if im Conte looking at it i would probably go all out to sign Adama Traore to play as a ball winning (you cant get the ball off me) central midfielder make the most of that mans strengths and when he goes past a couple of players give him licence to go where he likes upfield and actually be the first manager to play to the mans strengths which is strength, speed and dribbling
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Fucking hates subs! Fresh legs earlier and May you can go on and bang a few more in, still no minutes for danjuma he brings in Lucas!
Joke isn’t it poor bloke finds it too hard to coach 2 games a week even against 2nd string champo trans! No wonder we can only play one decent half of football at most as he can prbly only do that either.
Chelsea, Man City couldn’t do it without backing either.
If you look at Contes:
Tactics( or lack of it )
Formation, who he never changes
Don´t give younger players a chance
Keep playing the same eleven, despite lack of form
It´s pretty obvious to me this man needs the best players to succeed. And i don´t know if that´s the sign of a winner in my eyes.
Tactics( or lack of it )
Formation, who he never changes
Don´t give younger players a chance
Keep playing the same eleven, despite lack of form
It´s pretty obvious to me this man needs the best players to succeed. And i don´t know if that´s the sign of a winner in my eyes.
If there is one thing money cant buy its instant success.
Money definitely helps to sign new players and top managers but it guarantees nothing
Both the clubs you mention have extremely rich chairman (abramovich era) but it even took them several years to generate continued success through there investments.
Todd Boehly spends over 600 million on players brings in Potter and it seems very much sticking by his man to get the best out of the investmant he has made the club thus far has been dogshit but he has the balls to do it and when it pays off (& pay off it will will require alot of patience) the man will be a genius but if it fails its his investment thats fucked.
Also look at the likes of West Ham and Nottingham Forrest both heavily invested in player recruitment this past year spent shitloads of money and with west ham in particular looks like shite investment yet i dont think you can really blame Steve Cooper or David Moyes for any dismal run of form etc
Its stick or twist for Spurs right now with Conte yet we sit in 4th place in EPL and really are having a shite season imagine what we could do if we make a couple more signings and actually start firing on all cylinders under Conte and start playing to our strengths
Conte is like any other Italian great manager and that is passionate about the game
Every loss will hurt him both on and off the pitch including the personal loss of losing 3 dear friends in such a short space of time aswell as the ill health he has had to overcome.
He wears his heart on his sleeve and is always honest
Look at inter milan in particular to see the way Antonio Conte preps his side to be successful and there was alot of doubt before he got it right but when he unleashes his best team he will tell you thats when we can sit back and finally enjoy watching
But at the moment it is very much
like an italian opera which can be sad and dull before the grand finale
and like all italians we have to endure the pain to truly appreciate the ending.
Either sign on now Conte or fuck off because we cant judge a project thats only half completed.
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Yes the Sheffield United defeat was unacceptable, I don't buy that the team selected wasn't good enough to win though, nor that the players were sent out with a 'don't worry too much about this one' message either.
There's more to be had from Conte but only with better players, especially defensively. At this stage I think it's done, Levy won't give him the two or three players he wants each window to improve us - it's this that worries me because with Kane potentially fucking off, we're gonna suffer in all sorts of ways and which manager will Levy do it for?
I just don't trust what happens next, that there's a plan, a philosophy, a road map for the next few years. With Conte at least, we have a manager of intensity who wins stuff, it's partly (along with a big injury list) why this year was different, his bereavements and illness took that intensity away from him and we've suffered as a result.
Can't see him being here next year in any respect.
was really enjoying this post until you suggested signing Adama Traore as a ball winning centre mid
he won at juventus, inter and chelsea without having the best squad and the best players of the tournament
Not the best players, he doesn't come in and ask for the best, he asks for quality. He won with Victor Moses, David Luiz, Marcus Alonso - hardly the best quality as an example.
We need better players in quite a few positions - it doesn't matter who the manager is, that's not gonna change. We've gone from Toby and Jan to Dier and Davies, we went from Dembele and Wanyama to Winks and Sissoko and now Benta and PEH. It's not good enough, it's not even close.
Poch had a superior team to this current one in every single way in 2017 and we've declined ever since. I'm very happy Conte has pushed for better players, I'm happy for him to pick players he thinks are good enough and reject ones he doesn't, we've let our standards drop to the point we celebrate mediocre players and pat them on the back as 'steady eddies who won't let you down, never complain, do a job'.
Ben Davies is a squad player at his absolute best. Seems like a nice bloke. But he's a squad player and we need better if we want to compete with the best, he shouldn't be starting every week or even very often.
We need better whoever the manager is.
If you reduce it all down to the biggest problem with Conte, its press conferences.
If he never spoke to the media, his relationship with fans would be very different.