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Manager Antonio Conte

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If you reduce it all down to the biggest problem with Conte, its press conferences.

If he never spoke to the media, his relationship with fans would be very different.
he has incredible character limits: he is not able to handle the criticism neither the defeats neither the failure.
and when he finds himself facing these things he speaks absolutely out of turn.
he has had 10-12 years of career, and always showed the same limits everywhere he went
 
Yes the Sheffield United defeat was unacceptable, I don't buy that the team selected wasn't good enough to win though, nor that the players were sent out with a 'don't worry too much about this one' message either.

There's more to be had from Conte but only with better players, especially defensively. At this stage I think it's done, Levy won't give him the two or three players he wants each window to improve us - it's this that worries me because with Kane potentially fucking off, we're gonna suffer in all sorts of ways and which manager will Levy do it for?

I just don't trust what happens next, that there's a plan, a philosophy, a road map for the next few years. With Conte at least, we have a manager of intensity who wins stuff, it's partly (along with a big injury list) why this year was different, his bereavements and illness took that intensity away from him and we've suffered as a result.

Can't see him being here next year in any respect.
Of course it should have been, but there is a problem when you change the whole team giving minutes to players who aren't playing. It signals that this is an easy game and we should stroll through. It was the mentality that was the problem, not the absolute quality of the players
 
Even though our performances are unpredictable under Conte, our tactics/style of play is too predictable. Other teams don't have to second guess anything apart from whether or not Richarlison will be playing.
We have introduced new elements in our play recently. Hojbjerg getting forward, Skipp being more expansive, Sarr , Dier stepping out into MF, Royal cutting in. Porro delivery, Richi energy up top. Its not as predictable as it was.
 
Of course it should have been, but there is a problem when you change the whole team giving minutes to players who aren't playing. It signals that this is an easy game and we should stroll through. It was the mentality that was the problem, not the absolute quality of the players
But the counter point to that is two or three fold - if you don't give players minutes they get fucked off and demotivated, they don't grasp the system very well when you do need them regularly (due to injuries), and you're also giving them the chance to play well and stake a claim for a place more often.

Richy, Lucas, Sanchez and Sarr were the only 4 non regulars but they've all played this season at various times. PP obviously a new big signing. What do we do? Never rotate?

Any player who showed a poor mentality in that game (and I agree it was the mentality that was the problem), should be moved on if possible. To be honest there's only about 3 players who started that game that I'd be desperate to keep if given the choice.

Conte talks a lot about mentality and raising the level. I think this game bears him out. It's not a new thing for many of these players and they need moving on.
 
It's weird, we had a near identical results and GD this time last season and we went on a run and secured top 4 and we will most probably get it again.

I mean it's fine if you have a team built equipped to go for the league as long as you win it but going out of cups with as much as a whimper is poor, can Conte really only coach teams to play 1 game a week? And if so can you really call him elite?
 
But the counter point to that is two or three fold - if you don't give players minutes they get fucked off and demotivated, they don't grasp the system very well when you do need them regularly (due to injuries), and you're also giving them the chance to play well and stake a claim for a place more often.

Richy, Lucas, Sanchez and Sarr were the only 4 non regulars but they've all played this season at various times. PP obviously a new big signing. What do we do? Never rotate?

Any player who showed a poor mentality in that game (and I agree it was the mentality that was the problem), should be moved on if possible. To be honest there's only about 3 players who started that game that I'd be desperate to keep if given the choice.

Conte talks a lot about mentality and raising the level. I think this game bears him out. It's not a new thing for many of these players and they need moving on.
You're right of course they should see it as a chance to stake their claim but we have seen so often with this group (conference league and other Cup exits) that they just don't. The answer imo is more rotation in league games. Make them feel valued members of the squad and give the likes of sarr and Richy more minutes throughout the season. Then they are fresh, ready and motivated when needed
 
It's weird, we had a near identical results and GD this time last season and we went on a run and secured top 4 and we will most probably get it again.

I mean it's fine if you have a team built equipped to go for the league as long as you win it but going out of cups with as much as a whimper is poor, can Conte really only coach teams to play 1 game a week? And if so can you really call him elite?

In this respect, one ought to remember that this season we didn't kick the season off with a botched 3 months under a different manager..... Nor did Conte miss his all-important pre-season with the players.
 
We have introduced new elements in our play recently. Hojbjerg getting forward, Skipp being more expansive, Sarr , Dier stepping out into MF, Royal cutting in. Porro delivery, Richi energy up top. Its not as predictable as it was.
Be good if we could have alternative formation though when the 343 isn't working. The match against AC Milan for example.
 
You're right of course they should see it as a chance to stake their claim but we have seen so often with this group (conference league and other Cup exits) that they just don't. The answer imo is more rotation in league games. Make them feel valued members of the squad and give the likes of sarr and Richy more minutes throughout the season. Then they are fresh, ready and motivated when needed

We saw the ultimate example this when Nuno kept all the first teamers at home for a euro away trip last season...... He as good as said "OK, the rest of you are 2nd class citizens, now get out there and do my dirty work".
 
he has incredible character limits: he is not able to handle the criticism neither the defeats neither the failure.
and when he finds himself facing these things he speaks absolutely out of turn.
he has had 10-12 years of career, and always showed the same limits everywhere he went
This is very true.

I guess football management is also one of those jobs where accepting responsibility for failures has almost zero incentive. You are only ever one game from getting fired.
 
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