Apparently if we loan within the PL then they can still count as HG. Maybe we can loan Bergvall to someone like Coventry or Ipswich where he can play regular minutes?
Think we should sell Sarr regardless, though.
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Player Archie Gray
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Think we should sell Sarr regardless, though.
Indeed & it's not just me dear friend check out his player rankings as an average the entire forum haven't rated him above a 6 as a season average...because he is bang average...
So Xavi Simons, who came through La Masia, has raved about what a talent he is, but 'Guy From The Lane' thinks he's ordinary...while also thinking he can look like Ronaldinho on his mobile phone.
You're actually more deluded than the kid who thought the club should pay him to be in the changing room hyping the team up. This forum must have some of the most deluded people going.
Of course his team mate is gonna say he's good - what player on a team is gonna say otherwise man you're levels of naive...
Also not addressing my points just delve into personal attacks & yes I noticed you edited that post hahahaha but sure bud you're ignored, scream into the void for all I care
Your insight is as deep as a puddle - enjoy the forum with people that have more patience than I to deal with you're silliness...
In my view:
a) the kid's got plenty of the requisite talent
b) he might have more natural speed that we have usually seen from him, because he has been playing very deep
c) having to play out of position, particularly at the back last season should have built resilience and given him a good sense of what he needs to do as a MF player to link with his backs
d) he has sometimes looked too weak for the PL and been bullied by the opposition - and occasionally his MF option-taking was a shade optimistic - but this is something that age and experience (and good coaching) should remedy (enough)
e) as with others, Gray should prosper under RDZ who seems to have an empathy with the players sadly lacking with Frank/Tudor (Ange wasn't too bad in this area) - Gray's willingness to push forward and his (hitherto pretty latent) distribution skills should suit RDZ's style of play
f) RDZ may well keep Gray in the 22 for most games (because he can play both the MF and at the back) and, if we can get some steel and skill in our MF from others, use Gray off the bench in PL games and use him as a starting MF player in the cups
g) so Gray is a keeper - I would not loan him out - he should get enough football with us.
a) the kid's got plenty of the requisite talent
b) he might have more natural speed that we have usually seen from him, because he has been playing very deep
c) having to play out of position, particularly at the back last season should have built resilience and given him a good sense of what he needs to do as a MF player to link with his backs
d) he has sometimes looked too weak for the PL and been bullied by the opposition - and occasionally his MF option-taking was a shade optimistic - but this is something that age and experience (and good coaching) should remedy (enough)
e) as with others, Gray should prosper under RDZ who seems to have an empathy with the players sadly lacking with Frank/Tudor (Ange wasn't too bad in this area) - Gray's willingness to push forward and his (hitherto pretty latent) distribution skills should suit RDZ's style of play
f) RDZ may well keep Gray in the 22 for most games (because he can play both the MF and at the back) and, if we can get some steel and skill in our MF from others, use Gray off the bench in PL games and use him as a starting MF player in the cups
g) so Gray is a keeper - I would not loan him out - he should get enough football with us.
His most impressive performances were at right back where he showcased some impressive passing range in a couple of games.
At central midfield he was in the 1 percentile for progressive passes for the majority of the season. He refused to play it forward and went for the safe option (which is impossible to do at RB as there's nobody behind but a goalkeeper).
If we are a serious club we would loan him and Bergvall and bring in 2/3 actual quality cm's but we are not.
At central midfield he was in the 1 percentile for progressive passes for the majority of the season. He refused to play it forward and went for the safe option (which is impossible to do at RB as there's nobody behind but a goalkeeper).
If we are a serious club we would loan him and Bergvall and bring in 2/3 actual quality cm's but we are not.
Thats just Thomas Franks tactics is it?
Its clear as day for two seasons he has been completely mismanaged. Both Ange and Frank never looked after him as a young player deserves. Im not even sure he was coached, just his inate ability was used to cover whatever hole was in the team.
Under Tudor he showed glimpses of what he can do, particularly the Madrid game where he looked quality
Im very excited to see what RDZ can do with him, because in his 3rd season here he will actually be coached in a position in the team! (and the team will actually have a shape, tactic, method that works...)
(arguably, could say the same about several of our players)
He is the real deal!
If he's happy that he won't be in our starting, first eleven midfield then I'm happy for him to be around as an off the bench choice or cup starter.
He's got versatility and a decent attitude on his side and there have definitely been glimpses of a top player in there.
He's got versatility and a decent attitude on his side and there have definitely been glimpses of a top player in there.
It’s so obvious
When you have Harry Redknapp telling you that as well, you listen.
I understand De Zerbi protecting the younger players from a relegation scrap. It makes sense, especially because it was the seniors that got the club in that mess, so the responsibility to succeed or fail in getting us out had to be on them too.
But next season, De Zerbi will have a full preseason and blank slate to really implement his philosophy. He’s always used young midfielders before and I doubt him saying Archie is the future of the club was just hot air.
He didn't think Luis Suarez can play up front in the premier league, thank God we listened
Seriously what the fuck was he on!!!!LOLHe didn't think Luis Suarez can play up front in the premier league, thank God we listened
Yeah the forward passing thing I thought was mainly down to Frank although I think he does need to be move brave on the ball, De Zerbi wasn't happy with hik against Sunderland and dragged him off because he was hiding.
He didn't think Luis Suarez can play up front in the premier league, thank God we listened
Wrong, he said the Tottenham scouts told him Suarez wasn’t good enough
Youre the guy asking him to pick Scott Canham instead of Frank Lampard
Not hiding, he was subbed for not making an automatic bounce pass. Thats just about learning a system
I thought he was subbed for holding the ball too long, not hiding
A simple training thing - something at the time RDZ didnt really have time for (understandably)
Over the summer I hope for that to change, I think when RDZ has had some real time to work with him Gray can step up levels
Yeah I mean hiding/not being brave.
He didn't think Luis Suarez can play up front in the premier league, thank God we listened
Was also freezing Bale out of the team until Benny got injured and he had to play him.
If Benny hadn't got that injury, I have no doubt he'd have allowed Bale to leave.