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Beating a one-legged sleeping puppy is no challenge, mate. Give over - you're occasionally* funnyBring it on!
That's not religion. That's the fucking Bee Gees mate.You say that......
I thought one of the was from the carpenters?That's not religion. That's the fucking Bee Gees mate.
Stambouli is also of Algerian descent; doubt if he considers himself muslim though.
Bentaleb of course. Kid's profile looks like a straight-up Bedouin.
And Ade, of course.
Sorry M'Lud, it was a wild guess based on the fact he's Algerian, and that 98% of Algerians are Muslim.Shit like this that makes me laugh. You haven't got a clue. You're guessing based on country and now 'profiles'? I don't think you can get much more racist. Are all Italians Catholics too?
Ade is a Christian, not a Muslim, but for some bizarre reason he respects Islamic spiritual healers. But hey, he's black so "Ade of course".
Benty is a Christian, not a Muslim. ("I wouldn't say I'm religious. I stay in bed on a Sunday morning. But I had a Christian upbringing and I believe in God")
Lets stop point blank guessing a players religion simply because of their location/skin colour/name please. While we're at it, lets drop the entire topic of religion from this thread. Their religion, guessed or otherwise, is irrelevant. They're Yids before anything else.
Sorry M'Lud, it was a wild guess based on the fact he's Algerian, and that 98% of Algerians are Muslim.
Promise I'll do my research before making such wild accusations in future.
Thought you meant Benoit Assou-Ekotto ochfacepalm: edited.
Chill your melting, being a "Muslim" isn't completely analogous to identifying as a Christian, it's not just "guessing" people's religion, there's a strong racial and cultural heritage aspect as well. In common usage it's more akin to a Jewish person that doesn't necessarily practice Judaism. Muslim =/= Islamist.Shit like this that makes me laugh. You haven't got a clue. You're guessing based on country and now 'profiles'? I don't think you can get much more racist. Are all Italians Catholics too?
Ade is a Christian, not a Muslim, but for some bizarre reason he respects Islamic spiritual healers. But hey, he's black so "Ade of course".
BAE is a Christian, not a Muslim. ("I wouldn't say I'm religious. I stay in bed on a Sunday morning. But I had a Christian upbringing and I believe in God")
Lets stop point blank guessing a players religion simply because of their location/skin colour/name please. While we're at it, lets drop the entire topic of religion from this thread. Their religion, guessed or otherwise, is irrelevant. They're Yids before anything else.
I'm the last one to defend sammy's "never back down" approach. But, as sad as it is that his priority was to point score rather than offer condolences, if people were honest the hypocrisy he points out is spot on. Had he been a little more tactful and expressed regret at the death of Chadli's dad then I don't think there would be a credible reason to bin him this time. None of us are personal mates of Chadli. He plays for the team we support. That is the extent of our connection to him...and that connection is identical to the one that we have with the likes of Adebayor. When Adebayor's brother died for every "condolences" comment there was another berating him for skipping out at the start of the season. That's the harsh truth and the double standard that sammy was highlighting, even if it was ill timed.
So, ultimately, the ugliness doesn't really lie with sammy, it rather lies with those who can express sympathy for one player and cunt another off as if he's inhuman (not that I am accusing anybody here of doing that, but some of the shit I've read elsewhere has been appalling). If we show human compassion to Chadli then we should show it to all the players. Not pick and choose based on rumour and media profile.
In any event, I wish Chadli's family the very best.
Chill your melting, being a "Muslim" isn't completely analogous to identifying as a Christian, it's not just "guessing" people's religion, there's a strong racial and cultural heritage aspect as well. In common usage it's more akin to a Jewish person that doesn't necessarily practice Judaism. Muslim =/= Islamist.
edit: fuck this, no sense in arguing in circle.You guessed his religion, got it wrong. Why not just admit that much and move on, rather than make up some shit about how "religion has strong racial and cultural aspects"?
Just dug a deeper hole by basically saying race is synonymous with religion. i.e. "He looks like a Muslim", which would be racist and stereotyping.
Ha, what a melt. Sorry man, but once again Muslim and Islamist are not synonyms. Plenty of people self-identify as Muslims but aren't practicing adherents of Islam.
I'm not making any of it up, it's fairly standard and mainstream religious theory.
Chill your melting, being a "Muslim" isn't completely analogous to identifying as a Christian, it's not just "guessing" people's religion, there's a strong racial and cultural heritage aspect as well. In common usage it's more akin to a Jewish person that doesn't necessarily practice Judaism. Muslim =/= Islamist.
You don't speak on behalf of the support so don't say stuff like this. You are equating the fact they have the same profession to our connection to an individual human. My connection to Chadli is different to Ade, so therefore I can show condolences or not in any way I see fit. Not how you or any other supporter see it.That is the extent of our connection to him...and that connection is identical to the one that we have with the likes of Adebayor.
That's not speaking for the support. That's stating fact. The vast majority of fans don't know the players on a personal level. Therefore our knowledge of their character is based on public perception.You don't speak on behalf of the support so don't say stuff like this.
Chadli complained through his agent that he wanted out of the club and complained about the position he was being played in while Sherwood was still around. Adebayor gives a large chunk to charity and runs projects back home in Togo. At the end of the day we can spin it how we like, we still don't know them personally and what you are doing is arbitrarily determining who is more deserving of your compassion based on a perception, nothing more. Chadli deserves our compassion, but then so does Adebayor when it is warranted, and I know a lot of people who shat on him when his brother died. It's called giving someone the benefit of the doubt. I'm not here to have a 7 page argument about it and start name-calling like sammy would, but I think if people were honest they'd see there's an inconsistency.Ade has acted a prat for a long time. Chadli AFAIA hasn't acted up once.
They are different.
Assuming this is what happened of course.Getting time off for his mother putting a hex on him is fucking deplorable. I'm not having my club suffer because of some idiot's lack of education.