His comments about entertaining and hopefully get the result don’t make sense. As we hardly attacked in the 2nd half. Their goalie had one attempt to save. All this BS about us attacking at 2-0. It wasn’t like that really. They scored early on in 2nd half. It wasn’t even a transition. One of their goals started from their goalie and they scored 5 passes later.
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Match Brighton & Hove Albion vs Tottenham Hotspur - Sunday 6th October - 16:30KO
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Partly true but dippers would keep the tempo up and go get 3 or4 like they did v us last season. We just dropped our intensity and stopped doing things properly whilst they upped their work rate which we did not match.
It is just so infuriating for this to keep happening. Just when you think the team is rolling a wheel comes off. This has been the pattern for as long as I can remember.
Well we still would have only gotten a point.
Which is my point, really, he's not even very much at fault for yesterday. All we had to do is not concede 3 goals in 45 minutes - the lion's share of that blame falls on our defenders who are habitually praised and yet comprise one of the leakiest units in club history.
But, yes, we need better than Werner. We have 2 players who are preferred to Werner and both were our injured this weekend. Werner was brought back because he was a relatively cheap and easy insurance policy. Similar to Dier being brought back into the squad last winter, when a position is hit with a cluster of injuries you end up playing someone you'd prefer not.
So what you’ve outlined there is the need for proper steel in front of the back 4. I wouldn’t say we have that right now
Your point about us needing a ruthless leader is spot on, our team is full of nice guys who don't have the spark in them to really stand up and give everyone in the team a good kick up the ass when it's duly needed.
Sonny is wayyyy too much of a soft touch and should never of been chosen as captain - I am willing to die on this hill.
Levy and Lange want a group of players that will gel and have minimal disharmony within the group. That's reasonable on paper, but what you're missing is having feisty but intelligent personality types who are willing to cause disharmony in the short term, for the sake of the long term. Players who are willing to stand up and speak up when the team need a good talking to about their attitude, whether that's on the training pitch or during the heat of a game when you're failing to adapt and overcome the change in momentum.
We need ruthless leaders but also some high energy terrier types in midfield like Gallagher, someone who once dispossessed will be hot on your heels immediately frothing at the bit trying to get the ball back, harassing you constantly.
One thing that Mourinho is right about, is we need to be more nasty all over the pitch, dirty tactics (within reason) to reach our objective - which is to win the fuggin game, every game, even if it means breaking a few nails in the process!
One thing I would do if I was manager, would be to tell the players to cut out the theatrics when being challenged, and keep on your feet. It sends a message to other teams that you're a bunch of hard bastards! I would only tell them to perform this south american inspired theatrics in the penalty box.
Your other point largely nullifies my argument in support of Ange, whereby I was saying he's not subbing off certain low performing players, because he wants to see how they respond to shock and adversity without him needing to spoon feed them stuff if he's already told them a thousand times in training.
But clearly these players need a good head wobble and reminder to play with heart and grit. But here's where Ange has gone wrong - when the momentum has clearly shifted significantly against them, give them 5, maybe ten MAX to sort things out, but if they are still under the cosh and haven't got their shit together....that's when you start spouting orders.....but christ if they're additionally letting in goals for fun, then that's when you start acting like a raging banshee if necessary, as the players have clearly completely lost control of the game and are at a loss at how to adapt - THIS is when you need leadership from you manager and captain the most.
The fact that the barking orders part was completely absent with Ange throughout the entirety of the period we started letting in goals for fun....that to me is odd by its own admission and sad!
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Listen to the Up Front with Simon Jordan interview with Jaap Stam. He said there were players at United who wouldn't even acknowledge each other off the training or match pitch. He was saying it made no difference to them as a team on the pitch. They all knew exactly what was required of them on the pitch and got on with it.
Thanks mate, will have a look. It's a solid insider perspective I'd imagine. Good team spirit and cohesion is important for obvious reasons, but you're all here to do a job, and each player serves a slightly different individual purpose, but collectively they all need to understand the psychological fundamentals of how to play as a team, respond to adversity and adapt the level of aggression to each moment during the game. We want our players to act like men with grit - blood, sweat and tears if necessary. Not shin pads, crying to the ref over spilt milk and doing goofy goal celebrations!
But his often have we scored more than 3 goals per game under Ange?
Yes Brighton are very good team, they are sold strong unbeatable. There is no shame at all surrendering 2-0 first half lead and leave with nothing. They are a big club, top 4 contender no doubt.
Change the formation or put someone else there?
May be he has shown committment to get back and get blocks in.
Lately he's been very good all over the pitch. Deserves more minutes, especially if Destiny or Pedro are faltering.
I'd like to see Gray given a go in there as he is already our most natural CDM.
I mean that answer is like some 5 yr old playing with their toys. Surely a grown man nearly 60 with years of managerial experience doesn’t say that. It’s beyond words! What sort of message is that to the players. What I want to know is what was entertaining from a spurs pov in that 2nd half. The guy is in cloud cooku land and he says he always wins a trophy in his 2nd year!
But those mistakes could happen in any system or even when winning 5-0. What risk / reward is there when bents doesn’t get to ball first? How many times do you players put the ball out or clear it for a corner. That is just basics of defending. We are not going to retrieve the ball from that position and go up the other end and score a goal. In fact how many goals do we actually score from when our defenders have the ball and play ping pong for 5 minutes then actually move it forward and get into pen box?
How young was the starting 11? There was no teenagers in there ffs! They’re CM had a 19 year old in it and the other lad I think is 20.
Put some players who are gonna get stuck in. At bergvhall makes tackles. How many challenges did you see Timo and Johnson make. MADDs for all the criticism he gets he does press well and win the ball back.
Yes regardless of the system abd philosophy if player is having mate sub him. What was so wrong in bringing on Spence for either Porro or destiny?
How many reality checks do you need? How many times last season did we son or another player front up and say performance was not acceptable? See it twice may be and should be astute enough to know what is what.