Christian Eriksen

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Nope that's fair enough Stevee. Though I guess I'd admire them more if they cared less about money, cared more about the game, cared more about their (my) club and did more good things with their obscene wealth. Then again, how many fucks do they give over what I think?

Hey folks, I know - I'm a depressed old bugger. I should have stopped when I said 'rant over'......
That is actually a very, very good point.

The likes of Wayne Bridge (?) happily sitting in the stands on x10000s a week.
Having no pride in themselves, their ability and having completely lost touch with why they became footballers in the first place.
 
And that shit right there - the post not the poster - is why this game is in trouble.
That someone who earns £70k a week for kicking a fucking ball about (100x what a skilled worker gets, 25x what the Prime Minister gets, etc etc) considers themselves underpaid - and sane people actually agree with him. It’s madness.
Don’t bother coming back to me with the economics of the business, I know all that stuff.
It’s just not right. Rant over.

I see elite athletes as more deserving of obscene wages than hedge fund managers and the like.

The bulk of the people making six figures a week don't bring nearly the joy and wonder into the world that Christian Eriksen does, and in many cases they're sucking the blood of the rest of us rather than creating new economic value.
 
That is actually a very, very good point.

The likes of Wayne Bridge (?) happily sitting in the stands on x10000s a week.
Having no pride in themselves, their ability and having completely lost touch with why they became footballers in the first place.

TBF, John Terry shaggin' yer missus will do that to a man...
 
Yes but Eriksen has always said he's had a plan about his career. There was quotes going round when he signed for us about he wants to play in Serie A, La Liga etc. all before he retires.
People change plans from years ago. You can't quote what a 20 something footballer said in 2014.
 
I see elite athletes as more deserving of obscene wages than hedge fund managers and the like.

The bulk of the people making six figures a week don't bring nearly the joy and wonder into the world that Christian Eriksen does, and in many cases they're sucking the blood of the rest of us rather than creating new economic value.

Hard to disagree Illini - but two wrongs....
 
And that shit right there - the post not the poster - is why this game is in trouble.
That someone who earns £70k a week for kicking a fucking ball about (100x what a skilled worker gets, 25x what the Prime Minister gets, etc etc) considers themselves underpaid - and sane people actually agree with him. It’s madness.
Don’t bother coming back to me with the economics of the business, I know all that stuff.
It’s just not right. Rant over.
I understand your moral argument in general and it is obscene seeing what the top players earn.
But people must realise that our own owners are not on a moral crusade to change this situation.
They're in the game to milk it for every penny they can and capitalise on every profitable opportunity.
They're as guilty as any for trying to maximise and inflate to the most grotesque proportions every transfer fee they recieve for one of our players.
They are as keen as all of them, more keen even, to extract the maximum ticket price from the fans they think they can get away with

And so long as this is the case, we, the fans, have every right to expect them to acknowledge the market they contribute to and profit from by paying our top performers, like Christian Eriksen the kind of salary that they could command at our competitors, and also be prepared to pay the kind of transfer fees they encourage others to pay.
 
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I understand your moral argument in general and it is obscene seeing what the top players earn.
But people must realise that our own owners are not on a moral crusade to change this situation.
They're in the game to milk it for every penny they can and capitalise on every profitable opportunity. They're as guilty as any for trying to maximise and inflate to the most grotesque proportions every transfer fee they recieve for one of our players.
They are as keen as all of them to extract the maximum ticket price from the fans they think they can get away with
And so long as this is the case, we, the fans, have every right to expect them to acknowledge the market they contribute to and profit from by paying our top performers, like Christian Eriksen the kind of salary that they could command at our competitors, and also be prepared to pay the kind of transfer fees they encourage others to pay.
Yeah and we the gullible fans are responsible we pay the tickets buy merchandise,subscribe to satellite tv ect,ect until we wise up it will continue and guess what we won’t so there’s no point moaning about it.
 
Not to listen to your shit

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I go to the odd match, usually away tbf.
I own a few spurs shirts .. but not for a long time
I watch their games - on streams and on the BBC.
Im a died hard spurs fan.
Right, well then...the vast majority of their salaries currently comes from television contracts and related advertising. So by watching the matches on streams and BBC you're providing yourself as a number to be counted in the metric that tells television executives and marketing professionals in other industries that X number of people are interested in football which is what gives it its value. Doesn't even matter if they're illegal streams, they track and quantify the value of that audience as well.

So, whether you like it or not, you are paying their salary and you're partly responsible for their ridiculous salaries.

:kaneear:
 
No mate - I wasn’t trying to be logical.
I was making a point about morality.
Firstly, a bunch of greedy wankers have stolen my sport from me - do I still go to watch my team in this nasty commercial world (paying more for a singlefootball match than my Dad used to earn in a month)? yes, I do - what am I supposed to do?
Secondly, 23 year old kids earning 50 times what a doctor or nurse earns for kicking a football is just wrong - end of.
But I appreciate that the kids on here don’t like moral high horses, and I got the exact dumbass replies back on commercial values that I asked people not to bother with. So that’ll teach me.
Then go full bore socialism. But in a capitalist economy the labour of the football industry is entitled to a fair percentage of the fruits of their labour. There's ridiculously more money in football than medicine because you, I, and the rest of these cunts spend a ridiculous amount of time and money following football and whenever the government wants to raise taxes (which might help raise the salaries of doctors and nurses) we piss and moan - I mean, if taxes are raised how can we afford to follow the footy, after all?

However you want to slice it, out sized sport and entertainment salaries are a reflection of our society and its priorities...which, at the end of the day, is the sum product of our individual desires. It's not Eriksen's fault we're all a bunch of cunts who prioritised entertainment and a good time over communal health and welfare. So have a look in the mirror, we're the problem not them.
 
Right, well then...the vast majority of their salaries currently comes from television contracts and related advertising. So by watching the matches on streams and BBC you're providing yourself as a number to be counted in the metric that tells television executives and marketing professionals in other industries that X number of people are interested in football which is what gives it its value. Doesn't even matter if they're illegal streams, they track and quantify the value of that audience as well.

So, whether you like it or not, you are paying their salary and you're partly responsible for their ridiculous salaries.

:kaneear:
Nah. I'm not.
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Nah. I'm not.
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Right, well then...the vast majority of their salaries currently comes from television contracts and related advertising. So by watching the matches on streams and BBC you're providing yourself as a number to be counted in the metric that tells television executives and marketing professionals in other industries that X number of people are interested in football which is what gives it its value. Doesn't even matter if they're illegal streams, they track and quantify the value of that audience as well.

So, whether you like it or not, you are paying their salary and you're partly responsible for their ridiculous salaries.

:kaneear:

My moral indignation is aimed at: the TV companies, the agents and the governing bodies who have sold out. They are all motivated solely by greed.

Personally, I refuse to pay the people who I consider to be the main culprits here - the communications companies who have taken my sports so that they can make a profit. I used to watch a lot of football, golf & F1 on the telly and now I don’t (can’t) because I won’t subscribe to Sky or BT.

The fundamental immorality of the situation will eventually over-ride the commerciality.

I do of course spend a huge amount (of time as well as money) attending our home games in person, so I’m hypocritical as well as stupid and self righteous.
 
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