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Starks said:
Yeah, I think alot of their players over performed last season and it's showing this. Martinelli is never going to hit the same heights. Nketiah is never good enough. Jesus can't be relied on. Xhaka had an all timer and is now gone. Partey is a rapist. Odegaard has shown Inconsistencies this season and they can't seem to keep a cleansheet to save their life.

Rice is a good player. But it will prove to be a pointless signing if they don't improve overall this season when they have other quite glaring issues.

Feel abit like us post 16/17 - we hit heights we hadn't and it was always going to be tough to maintain it. Especially considering that year (like last season) plenty of top teams underperformed.
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Until they prove me wrong I'm sticking with the theory that they did what they did last year because Chavs, Liverpool and us had our worst seasons in decades simultaneously. Each club has its own unique circumstance enabling this but all three clubs with 2 things in common, a) All were in the CL whilst b) All had the highest number of players (2nd, 3rd & 4th) combined minutes at the World Cup which was bang slap in the middle of the season. Having CL means you can't rotate players the same way those in EL can (Woolich & Man U), you have to select first-team squad. Also, CL was condensed into more group-stage games played prior to WC. By contrast, Woolwich had the fewest combined minutes of any of the "big 6" clubs and it was by a very big margin too. (We also had the most players represented of a single cub past the 1/4 stages).

I think they are a good side but have issues specifically in creativity, especially from open play (their set pieces they score a lot of goals from) and without the ball they are very, very good. They are easily a top 4 competing side, not a title-challenging side (unless City have a self-inflicted meltdown or players no longer can listen and take on Pep's instruction).

It's way too early to make predictions on League positions based only on 6 games but today you'd have to say who the best team are below City based solely off the 1st 6 games we are probably the 2nd best team, followed by Brighton and Liverpool (Brighton looking the team with the clearest identity, with LFC only showing glimpses - half a game - of where they are heading). Then Woolwich, then Villa (although I've not watched a minute of Villa's games only highlights, so happy to be slapped down with that assessment of them).

TDLR: Woolwich will get competition this year from us (we've already taken 2 points they gained off us last season) and Liverpool. They've only played 3 away fixtures in all comps to date (out of 8 games 2 in PL), and they weren't convincing vs Utd or against 10-man Fulham or Palace. CL will negatively affect their season by causing injuries and fatigue to first team squad, they fadded last year whilst rotating fully in the EL.

Let's see if I'm wrong, I may well be but as yet I've not seen anything to change this view.
 
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Leggo5 said:
Reading Woolwich Mania (don't ask my why I'd do such a thing) and their common talking points are...

  1. They're celebrating a draw when our whole squad was injured.
  2. Liverpool will do them this weekend and send them back to mid-table.
    1. "If I was a Sp**s fan, after seeing what Saka did to Odogie in the first half of the NLD, I'd be worried seeing him lineup against Salah this weekend. :shivering:" - Malky
    2. "Their humbling will just come a week later than expected. I don't think Liverpool will be as generous as we were. Their reality check should begin this weekend." - Batman
    3. "They're about to get their first league defeat of the season on Saturday, courtesy of Liverpool." - Sapient Hawk
  3. "The 2 best teams they've played are an Woolwich that gifted them 2 goals they would never have scored on their own and possibly the worst Manchester United side in 30 years." - Batman
Regarding injuries, Bentancur, Perisic, LoCelso, as well as Brennan and Maddision pulled off with injuries all say "Hello!"

Pretty sad they're forced to root for Pool to do what they couldn't in their own house.

They might want to re-check that "gifted goal" tally from Sunday. I'm sure if Jesus had scored after picking Maddison's pocket, that would've been a class, deserved goal, but when Jorghino gets robbed, it's a gift. I see no gift whatsoever in the first Maddison to Son goal of the game. The Romero handball and Own Goal both had a bit of gift giving to them.

Lastly, isn't their best win of the season against United? Guess that same result only counts for Spurs.
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Are they really talking about gifting goals? They got a mad deflection and a dodgy pen, they should have also had a player sent off and although we all say a draw is not a bad result at the death star , I think the majority of us were a bit disappointed only coming away with 1 point! Fucking hate them cunts!
 
All I've heard this week

If Martinelli was fit
If Rice didn't go off injured
If Jesus scored that chance he blazed over the bar
If if if if if

All this hypothetical scenario bullshit is one way to them but we could easily play that game as well.

If we didn't gift them 2 own goals
If Johnson put his chance away
If Maddison didn't go off with an injury

Etc...

Not that it matters because it's such a redundant and retarded way to argue but they will do whatever they want to do to cope with the fact that we matched them on the day.

They were after all predicting that they were going to thrash us or run out comfortable winners and pick us off, what they didn't expect is how good we actually were.

And now they accuse is of celebrating the draw as if it's a win despite them crowing all week saying they are going to put us back in our place, honestly cannot stand these cunts 😆
 
Fattynomates said:
Are they really talking about gifting goals? They got a mad deflection and a dodgy pen, they should have also had a player sent off and although we all say a draw is not a bad result at the death star , I think the majority of us were a bit disappointed only coming away with 1 point! Fucking hate them cunts!
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The death star, what a shit hole that is!
 
The one Woolwich Wanderers supporting friend I allow myself, is now moaning about their injuries and saying they are the most affected in the league and that all touring for preseason should be cancelled moving forwards.

The cracks are appearing.
 
Oracle said:
The one Woolwich Wanderers supporting friend I allow myself, is now moaning about their injuries and saying they are the most affected in the league and that all touring for preseason should be cancelled moving forwards.

The cracks are appearing.
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Said to my Woolwich supporting dad (tbf he was born south of the river) that I was pleased to feel disappointed with the result given we should have gone on to win and he said they were disappointed but with all the injuries they had to accept the result! He’s not even that bad as far as that lot go, more into cricket but seriously- someone needs to put them straight!
 
Dr Rocktopus said:
Is Arteta's hair drawn on (badly) with a marker pen?
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Running Late Business Man GIF by LEGO
 
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