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I wonder if the problem with VAR isn’t VAR but the total lack of common sense. If you have ‘’clear and obvious’’ then the ref should in 1-2 seconds be able to see if it’s wrong, if it takes longer then it is not clear and obvious. If refs are not able to do this then there is an issue with having job worths at the helm.
Exactly this.

If you can't see within 30 seconds, it isn't clear and obvious. I don't see this level of scrutiny for other team's penalty decisions.
 
That's why we have things called Slow...motion...replays :contefacepalm:
That's why I told you to slow down the video you posted to me from YouTube, at the 25 second mark, you moron. Maybe you don't know how to do that? That particular view (which was closest to the ref's own view) clearly shows the ball striking ONLY the arm.

You have way too much faith in the technology of images, but you don't realise or accept it. That is why you need to watch the film 'Blow Up'.
 
Cunts.

When we didn't get a penalty for a clear handball against them the other day, because VAR fucked up, Moyes said, Ah well, you win some you lose some.

When the VAR went against them today, he's bleating like a fucking lost lamb.

Cunts.
Their goal should never have stood too, it was a foul throw, not taken from the right position and the ball not taken behind the thrower's head, (if it was a quick free kick taken and it wasn't from the right spot or if the ball was rolling then VAR would have looked at it, it didn't look because for some reason ref's are immune to penalising foul throws!! Of course, unless it's a Spurs player taking them like Aurier and Sess yesterday).
 
If it wasn't a penalty because it came off his head onto his arm, then how come Che Adams goal was ruled out for handball after it came off his head first?

Anyway - Still funny the unwashed are in the bottom 3.
 
Fuck off. It was a penalty you knob.
So, go and fuck yourself - Spurs should have had a penalty. It's the rules, you wanker.

But all you're doing is what VAR did - showing me the ONE, SINGLE view that could possibly have been construed as 'off the head first'. What are you, a cunt?

I'll take that as an admission that you've lost the argument - which you have, you twat.

That's why I told you to slow down the video you posted to me from YouTube, at the 25 second mark, you moron.

Happy to concede the point but is everything okay at home?

It's only a disagreement fella, it's not that deep?
 
Handball is not under clear and obvious error in the same way offside isn't, as it stands they keep looking until they are sure, I don't make the rules.
So your saying we could take about an hour to come to a hand ball decision when the evidence is not conclusive ....right that sounds likely
Unfortunately the referees we have now are shit, VAR could be good if it was used properly which with this bunch of buffoons it just isn't. The only place in the world where VAR is crap is here
 
So your saying we could take about an hour to come to a hand ball decision when the evidence is not conclusive ....right that sounds likely
Unfortunately the referees we have now are shit, VAR could be good if it was used properly which with this bunch of buffoons it just isn't. The only place in the world where VAR is crap is here
No i am not saying that.

VAR is shit always will be it slows the game and there's too much grey in football to keep everyone happy
 
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