I mean, we've both started the season by playing 8 matches of football in the UK against other premier league football clubs based in the UK. Clearly we've started pretty much the same, mate.
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make meI think you should spend some time on the naughty step. Or worse, in the Stratford Abomination (aka London Stadium).
Fucking good, fuck'em. I hate the cunts.This thread is winding them up over on sKUMB you naughty people.
I think you should spend some time on the naughty step. Or worse, in the Stratford Abomination (aka London Stadium).
I guess at least as a captain he's representative of their fan base
As difficult as it might sound he may have been guilty of bringing the club into disrepute. I am sure he'd have a solid defence in that this is West ham.Pardon me, but as distasteful as this DFLA sounds (why are men in their sixties calling themselves lads?) no one should lose their jobs for privately expressing political views.
Narrowing the scope of legitimate speech to far from legally allowed speech is both unjust and counterproductive
For one it doesn’t sound like he did it very privately if he’s going public on social media. Secondly the club might see it as a conflict of interest - they want/need to be seen as opposing rascism and promoting equality and tolerance, and one of their coaches is publicly supporting a group promoting rascist ideas. I get what you’re saying but it’s not exactly sensible.Pardon me, but as distasteful as this DFLA sounds (why are men in their sixties calling themselves lads?) no one should lose their jobs for privately expressing political views.
Narrowing the scope of legitimate speech to far from legally allowed speech is both unjust and counterproductive
privately i.e. under the capacity of a private citizen and not as representing the club.For one it doesn’t sound like he did it very privately if he’s going public on social media. Secondly the club might see it as a conflict of interest - they want/need to be seen as opposing rascism and promoting equality and tolerance, and one of their coaches is publicly supporting a group promoting rascist ideas. I get what you’re saying but it’s not exactly sensible.
For one it doesn’t sound like he did it very privately if he’s going public on social media. Secondly the club might see it as a conflict of interest - they want/need to be seen as opposing rascism and promoting equality and tolerance, and one of their coaches is publicly supporting a group promoting rascist ideas. I get what you’re saying but it’s not exactly sensible.
Are they? I thought their message was 'against all extremism'?
If I was found to make racist tweets or facebook outside of work its likely that I would be fired, this would be even more likely if I was in the entertainment (sorry but in this context it is) industry which needs to keep a particular image.privately i.e. under the capacity of a private citizen and not as representing the club.
This is not a conflict of interest as they aren't conflicting here, the club could take measures to oppose racism (lol as its the essex nazis but anyway) and an individual within the club could hold racist views. I also think that legally as the FLA aren't considered a racist group by the state and he's not a registered member, then sacking him would cost them a lot of money.
I’m sure that’s what they would like to claim, but let’s be honest, nationalist groups like this are rarely far from rascism. Judgemental of me perhaps but even if they genuinely don’t intend to be an anti-Muslim group, I would be willing to bet that many of them are leaning that way.Are they? I thought their message was 'against all extremism'?
There's a difference between you making a racist remark and you liking a post by an organization that may be considered racist. There's a degree of proportionality that a court will apply, supporting C18 is not similar to supporting Britain First which is not similar to supporting the EDL.If I was found to make racist tweets or facebook outside of work its likely that I would be fired, this would be even more likely if I was in the entertainment (sorry but in this context it is) industry which needs to keep a particular image.
I think this is the norm in the UK, if his twitter identifiers himself as a coach of WH its even more clear cut. Whether the "Lads" are a racist group is a get out but it does it is a group West Ham would not want to openly be associated with.
It may be different elsewhere but this would be normal in the UK IMO.
Ok I was specifically talking about the point you made that :There's a difference between you making a racist remark and you liking a post by an organization that may be considered racist. There's a degree of proportionality that a court will apply, supporting C18 is not similar to supporting Britain First which is not similar to supporting the EDL.
If you'll be sacked for supporting the lads in social media I'll take them to a tribunal