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You’d be surprised just how little the difference is as to what he offers


A not so good dele stills scores and assists more than barely anyone in the team bar Kane and son. And still offers more to the team than winks, sissoko, Lucas and lamela

9 goals and 6 assists in 2,800 minutes

Moura got 7 goals and 5 assists in 3,100 minutes

Lamela got 4 goals and 5 assists in 1,600 minutes

Not exactly trouncing the supposed shit players is he
 
2018/19
Dele 2,900 minutes 7 goals 8 assists

Moura 3,100 minutes 15 goals 2 assists

Lamela 1,600 minutes 6 goals 3 assists

I’m struggling to see how Dele is offering vastly superior goals and assists for minutes played against two players people consider champo
 
2018/19
Dele 2,900 minutes 7 goals 8 assists

Moura 3,100 minutes 15 goals 2 assists

Lamela 1,600 minutes 6 goals 3 assists

I’m struggling to see how Dele is offering vastly superior goals and assists for minutes played against two players people consider champo
Come on mate. Different positions to start and moura is getting worse and worse with time. And lamela? Lamela is a fraud who should be gone from this club years ago. Dele deserves a final chance. If he doesn’t come good until may while getting chances he’s done.
 
Come on mate. Different positions to start and moura is getting worse and worse with time. And lamela? Lamela is a fraud who should be gone from this club years ago. Dele deserves a final chance. If he doesn’t come good until may while getting chances he’s done.
Sorry but it is what it is. Dele is an AM, that’s where he contributes.
Lucas is getting worse? He outscored Dele by 8 goals the season before last, and I haven’t seen Dele improve since then.

I know what Dele did in 2016/17.
But that’s 4 years ago now and his output is quite literally no more no less than Mouras now.
 
This season Moura has 6 goals and 4 assists in 1,300 minutes

Dele has 2 goals and 2 assists in 500 minutes

He’s not even on course to outscore Moura with minutes played. for this supposed goal making machine
 
This season Moura has 6 goals and 4 assists in 1,300 minutes

Dele has 2 goals and 2 assists in 500 minutes

He’s not even on course to outscore Moura with minutes played. for this supposed goal making machine
Dele is actually capable of creating something. Lucas has little creativity. His assists are due to someone playing him into a good spot and playing a simple pass. Nothing against that but assists don’t equal creativity.

Youve already decided you hate dele years ago plus you are impossible to debate with, so I probably won’t read your pointless, inflammatory response.
 
4 of them in the Europa league
Last season Dele scored one goal v top 6 (Utd)
The rest were Everton, Burnley, Watford, Brighton, Norwich and Bournemouth

Assists were against Red Star, West Ham, Burnley, Wolves and Southampton

One “assist” was blasting a 3 yrd tap in straight at the keeper and someone else tucked in the rebound

Big game player
 
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Dele is actually capable of creating something. Lucas has little creativity. His assists are due to someone playing him into a good spot and playing a simple pass. Nothing against that but assists don’t equal creativity

So what we are now doing is dividing up assists into ones which create goals (Dele) and ones which are just because he happened to be on the pitch so don’t really count (Moura)
 
Even if you don't rate Dele surely you can see an argument that his profile may be of use?

Gets in the box, can play a through ball, take balls on the half turn etc.

Just like how Crouch was never better than Defoe, but often the big guy was more suitable alongside van der Vaart etc.
 
Hopefully, Dele features tomorrow, I'm not sure if fitness will be up to par yet or not so he might have to wait until the weekend. If it is true that Jose and Ledley were at Dele's house yesterday, that would be huge to get a good Dele back.

If Dele comes back with a lack of effort or attitude, then we know he should be sold in the summer. If he comes back as the good Dele, then we know we have another talented goal-scoring option.

He will likely be rusty as shit.

Lucky we have relaxed fans. :ledley:
 
Even if you don't rate Dele surely you can see an argument that his profile may be of use?

Gets in the box, can play a through ball, take balls on the half turn etc.

Just like how Crouch was never better than Defoe, but often the big guy was more suitable alongside van der Vaart etc.
In order for Dele to be useful, we have to control possession and be able to get players into the box. Just bringing back Dele isn't going to help if our defense can't pass the ball 3 yards and our attackers give it away within seconds of receiving it.
 
In order for Dele to be useful, we have to control possession and be able to get players into the box. Just bringing back Dele isn't going to help if our defense can't pass the ball 3 yards and our attackers give it away within seconds of receiving it.
Well we're using a bunch of players ineffectively constantly.

Might as well give Dele his shot. May even coincide with a style change in the team.
 
Youve already decided you hate dele years ago plus you are impossible to debate with, so I probably won’t read your pointless, inflammatory response.
Ok, but in a similar fashion to sammyspurs sammyspurs 'hate' you decided that you loved Dele years ago. Does that make you "impossible to debate"? The whole point of debate is the points being made not a particular participants perspective?

What you are essentially saying is either the other persons' points are too difficult for you to refute or you're just frustrated that they don't give up and move over to your perspective.
 
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