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Airfixx said:
"Brentford’s Lee Dykes, high on list but would take important bid as the club considers him a top director."

"Bid"?

Surely DOFs aren't subject to the same shenanigans, clauses etc. as players and managers.....?
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Depends on the contracts they are on I guess.

The only potential query I would have is that many currently in work might not be available to work for say 6 months or so if they are poached by a rival club (perhaps some might stipulate what constitutes a "rival").
 
Airfixx said:
Perhaps a compensation clause..... but "bid" just sounds like one of many instances where Romano uses words without understanding their technical implications...... Same as when he talks about transfer terms and they change from tweet to tweet.

Headache inducing stuff.
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Tbh I have some degree of professional experience in the field of American employment and contract law, and I find European practices in this area quite opaque and confusing whenever it comes up.

And of course in American sports all this stuff is cartelized and collectively bargained.
 
ShutUpPatrik said:
Leverkusen have been very good at player recruitment for a long time now. And Steidten have been there since 2019. First as head scout, then as DOF since last summer. So he's been involved in a lot of good purchases.

And his old club Bremen were also decent at scouting when he was there as well.

I think that we could be pleased with Steidten.
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I'm guessing he had a hand in appointing Xavi Alonso?
 
Guido 🇺🇦 said:
I think almost anyone will be an unknown or very hard to assess if they are good or not. Didn't really know about Paratici when we announced him.

The only thing I know about how Brentford opporate is they are heavily data driven.
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and that is a route we seem to want to go down again. But you’d have to assume Leverkusen were too. Any serious top team use it nowadays.

From a football london report when he was linked with the chavs:

“In 2019, he took over the role as squad planner at Leverkusen. As per the Guardian, part of Steidten’s appeal to the Blues is that, like Freund, he puts heavy focus on data when it comes to finding players. A potential complication, though, is that he became the Bundesliga side’s sporting director only last summer, stepping up when Simon Rolfes was promoted to managing director of sport”

www.football.london

Tim Steidten profiled as Chelsea and Todd Boehly eye new sporting director

Chelsea want to hold talks with Bayer Leverkusen’s Tim Steidten over their sporting director role after failing to convince RB Salzburg chief Christoph Freund to take the role
www.football.london www.football.london
 
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ShutUpPatrik said:
Leverkusen have been very good at player recruitment for a long time now. And Steidten have been there since 2019. First as head scout, then as DOF since last summer. So he's been involved in a lot of good purchases.

And his old club Bremen were also decent at scouting when he was there as well.

I think that we could be pleased with Steidten.
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Any idea why he's not there anymore, mate?
 
Right as Rain said:
Okay but is Steidten good at offloading deadwood?
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Airfixx said:
"Brentford’s Lee Dykes, high on list but would take important bid as the club considers him a top director."

"Bid"?

Surely DOFs aren't subject to the same shenanigans, clauses etc. as players and managers.....?
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Many senior employees, not just in sport, are on 'employment' contracts with minimum notice periods of 6-12 months and/or gardening leave requirements if going to a direct competitor etc. Equally some might even have share options or shadow share options which lapse if leaving the company (which can put price up of employee giving hem up to work elsewhere). Loads of possibilities

So just depends on the particular DoF as to what contract terms and benefit packages he is subject to.
 
ShutUpPatrik said:
Leverkusen have been very good at player recruitment for a long time now. And Steidten have been there since 2019. First as head scout, then as DOF since last summer. So he's been involved in a lot of good purchases.

And his old club Bremen were also decent at scouting when he was there as well.

I think that we could be pleased with Steidten.
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I’m sure he will flourish with Donna sticking her beak in, Levy overruling him, thrusting in ‘Club signings’ randomly and basically bungling every potential deal

Fuck this club
 
ShutUpPatrik said:
I don't think so. That would have been on his boss. Simon Rolfes, who has the role that Munn will have for us at Leverkusen.

Steidten is credited with signings like Shick, Demirbay, Diaby, Hlozek and Hincapie at Leverkusen. Either as direct scout of them or just overseeing the operation.
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Interesting.... Which may well suggest that he may not have a hand in the managerial level stuff here too.......

We really do need a fully fledged holistic DOF; not an executive scout/head of player recruitment. We already have the full structure that Fab left behind.

...We need a new Fab to slot into that framework.
 
Once or twice in a generation a club gets a great manager. The chairman can then choose to back them even if it means being out of pocket temporarily. Levy has never taken that option. Pointless wondering about a director of football with a chairman like that.
 
Airfixx said:
Any idea why he's not there anymore, mate?
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'Mutual consent' to part. So likely not a lot in public domain.

Maybe as simple as him getting itchy feet to change clubs - bigger remit and budget etc-

Boehly/Chelsea reported as trying to get him when they bought Chelsea but no agreement with his then club. Liverpool also reported to have had talks in April as they have that vacancy in the summer
 
Samisspurs said:
Once or twice in a generation a club gets a great manager. The chairman can then choose to back them even if it means being out of pocket temporarily. Levy has never taken that option. Pointless wondering about a director of football with a chairman like that.
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Managers do not buy players these days - DoF's do - classic case of managers buying players or not is Klopp having to have his arm twisted behind his back by Edwards (Liverpool DoF) before Klopp would accept Mo Salah. Klopp very grateful after the event.

Would be a novelty after a couple of years to find someone able to coach players, choose tactics and teams to win using the players they have available to them. But that's not a DoF
 
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