We need Pedro for Sunday so play Spence tomorrow ffs
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We need Pedro for Sunday so play Spence tomorrow ffs
If Ange expects Spence to behave differently and has drawn a line in front of the other squad members he cannot simply play him if Spence has not met the minimum requirements.
The situation must be about attitude because he has the technique and physicality.
However, Ange is not stupid enough to not have him on the bench for a dire emergency. That would be foolhardy given there is literally no other body!!
It is a simple line of discipline and Ange’s expectations are not being met.
The situation must be about attitude because he has the technique and physicality.
However, Ange is not stupid enough to not have him on the bench for a dire emergency. That would be foolhardy given there is literally no other body!!
It is a simple line of discipline and Ange’s expectations are not being met.
In January we should do what we should have done in the summer. Sell him for walker Peters who can play both sides and is club home grown. It would have sorted a lot of squad problems. Too smart for us though and isn’t a flashy name for the fans but solves a few problems.
Great, in different circumstances but right now we are playing with an exhausted Porro every possible minute who showed us on Sunday that it's catching up with him. It's not about rewarding Spence it's about protecting Porro, because of we don't we'll soon find out all about dire emergencies.
There is going to be a crossover point where a 70% committed Spence playing at 100% will be better overall than a 100% committed Porro playing at 30% because he's fucked.
Show me anyone who has said that Djed would be something so wonderful that you try to hint?
Cause right now it just feels that you make up some crap that you can then dismiss yourself.
I've seen no one stating that Djed would be best fullback or best LB or LWB or RB or RWB.
But we cannot keep playing Porro and Udogie with same intensity 2x per week like we have. This is so plainly obvious.
People are not calling Spence to outperform neither of starting fullbacks, but to give them some desperately needed rest. While being most likely downgrade to some extent. A temporary downgrade that people would accept in order to avoid situation where he would be only and long-term option when either of starting players get lengthy injury.
it's a shame so much info is gained these days from these twitter snippets, void of context or even the complete quote and then make assumptions based on the information that is presented. not aimed at you but it happens after ever press conf
if you watch it he actually says that Djed has been super professional despite not playing, and that he trains hard and that he just needs to be ready to take his chance when it comes .
probably doesn't get the clicks but there it is
He needs to take his chance when it comes. The problem is Ange is to fearful to let the chance come. Spence needs to start tonight.
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What Ange said is pretty brutal. If a player is training well and fit to play, but never selected, there’s only one judgment to be drawn. The manager must simply think he’s shit.
most likely, but that's the exact same conclusion as Conte, the club actively tried to get Genoa to sign him in the summer but they wouldn't shell out the 8 million and i think they offered 3 million or something silly so we just took him back.
I guess that's what the new contract was about, maintain his perceived value.
if we sign a full back in jan wouldnt be surprised if he goes out on loan
Crazy. Kid was signed as a club signing, but there was some real excitement around him. Conte didn't like nor want him, so he never played. Got shipped to Rennes then Genoa on loan as if no English team woulda been keen. Comes back, gets given a clean slate (though never heard nothing about him being difficult at Spurs), apparently wins Ange over, saves his ass vs Coventry...and he gets a new contract. But still, he doesn't play, we get told he ain't ready or similar...while CM kid Archie Gray who'd never played elite footy gets signed from Leeds for 40 mil and plays FB cover. And yeah Djed will likely be cut in the summer. Meanwhile, right now Porro is shot and Udogie is shit...still no Djed.
Make it make sense. Explain it to me as if I'm 6yo. Then do likewise to the exciting English talents in the Champo who are being considered by Spurs, tell them how it's the move to make to further their careers.
Man, I've been there. You turn up for training everyday, you look after your body so you're always in top shape, you give it all you've got, you do everything you gotta do to get a look in...you play hard, you listen to the coaches, you ask questions etc. Plus the guys playing every week are either tired, out of form or just garbage...but still you don't get picked. Even when the vast majority of your teammates (and some coaches) say you should and your captain goes speak with the gaffer about you...and it doesn't change. You talk to the boss yourself and he tells you that you ain't doing nothing wrong, just keep going and your time will come...but it never does...or he throws you on at 90+4. It's friggin frustrating, heart-breaking stuff.
I hope behind closed doors the kid is getting a proper explanation from Ange, cause if he serves him that same bullshit he did the Gold stooge, well poor lad.
Maybe in between 10 coughing fits, Ange could explain to us what his vision is and what his expectations are, for Djed and the rest. You know, instead of looking down on us and talking to us like we're mugs, hoping we'll keep swallowing his PR-prepped bullshit.
I agree too...bitch
(I agree)
That was me during my last year of playing Floorball.
This was amateur level obviously so nowhere near the pressure of pro sports. But I was one of like 3 guys to move up to train and play with the first team from my U-18 team. But I got no game time and it was my last year of high school so I opted to drop out of the team to focus on my grades before uni.
The moment I tell the coach that I am quitting I am hit with the "but you're such a good worker and one of the most improved!" But I was still losing game time to some 34 year old with a beer gut and three kids who only showed up for one practice session every two weeks.
I wasn't a standout but I was definitely good enough to play off the bench in a division 6 team.
He also had a poor loan at Leeds where his attitude was called into question as has happened at all his previous clubs.
It’s not a complicated story. Talented lower league player has a poor attitude, gets signed by a big club and repeatedly loaned out as he can’t reach the expected standard of performance or behaviour.
Gray’s fine and in the squad for tonight.
said championship player wasn't signed by the current regime, yet the 18 year old championship player who was has already made 13 appearances for the club by December and started games against the likes of Roma and Galatasary?
seems a good pitch
Anyone who watched the Coventry game knows he has the ability talent he just needs to be trusted by his coach. Harry Redknapp would have him flying . I suspect he will out last this coach