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Player Dominic Solanke

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Brian Fantana said:
Playing in a bit of a weird position, I’m not sure he knows what to do.

If we received a decent bid in the summer I’d sell but what would be preferable was if we signed a better striker and he was the back up.
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Yea Tudor seems to play him as a 10 almost which is mad cos he's the best target man at the club.

We absolutely do need a top striker but also have to be realistic, there's so few good strikers around and even if we stay up why would any of them choose us over all the better clubs that will be in for them.
He might be about the best we can have at the minute but we should be trying to sign another striker and hope that they push each other on to improve.
 
Sidford said:
Yea Tudor seems to play him as a 10 almost which is mad cos he's the best target man at the club.

We absolutely do need a top striker but also have to be realistic, there's so few good strikers around and even if we stay up why would any of them choose us over all the better clubs that will be in for them.
He might be about the best we can have at the minute but we should be trying to sign another striker and hope that they push each other on to improve.
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Assume we stay up, we need the best possible striker we can snare. A striker who just lives and breathes goals is a commodity that I think is even easier to appreciate in its absence.

Solanke was never,in any sense going to deliver to the demand. In hindsight that same equation applied/applies to Frank. Big clubs need better than both if they are to thrive, with no disrespect intended to either man.

For now however and until the end of the season,our strikers are good enough to score the goals we need to stay up, given the opposition. They need to deliver on their part of that requirement. No excuses.
 
Notabadsquad said:
Assume we stay up, we need the best possible striker we can snare. A striker who just lives and breathes goals is a commodity that I think is even easier to appreciate in its absence.

Solanke was never,in any sense going to deliver to the demand. In hindsight that same equation applied/applies to Frank. Big clubs need better than both if they are to thrive, with no disrespect intended to either man.

For now however and until the end of the season,our strikers are good enough to score the goals we need to stay up, given the opposition. They need to deliver on their part of that requirement. No excuses.
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Good luck getting that as I keep saying the striker market it's on it's knees all around Europe.

Strikers aren't what they used to be and now modern football these days isn't about relying on their strikers to win matches anymore so you don't have to be exceptional, you just need to do a job.
 
Shadydan said:
Good luck getting that as I keep saying the striker market it's on it's knees all around Europe.

Strikers aren't what they used to be and now modern football these days isn't about relying on their strikers to win matches anymore so you don't have to be exceptional, you just need to do a job.
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That's why I wrote what I did. Best we can possibly snare.

I have been saying for a long time that there is a dearth of top strikers.

That's why Lewandowski still turns out for Barcelona and why Kane will play until his late thirties if he stays hungry and fit.

But if we stay up we must find better than Solanke. Imperative.
 
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Notabadsquad said:
That's why I wrote what I did. Best we can possibly snare.

I have been saying for a long time that there is a dearth of top strikers.

That's why Lewandowski still turns out for Barcelona and why Kane will plsy until his late thirties if he stays hungry and fit.

But if we stay up we must find better than Solanke. Imperative.
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I feel your last line contradicted the rest of your thought process.
 
Notabadsquad said:
Not sure I quite agree but no issue.

I don't believe Solanke is as good as it gets for us, and if we do stay up and don't find a better striker, we might be consigned to mid-table or below for quite a while.
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He's better than Gyokeres if not on par with him and Woolwich are winning the league.

Too much focus on one player to decide the entire team's fate, teams aren't using strikers how they used to anymore because they realise that the game is now won in other areas of the pitch.

The stars are the wide forwards, not the strikers...that's where the goals are coming from these days.

Have a look on the market and look for a clear upgrade on him who we can realistically get, you're going to struggle to find one.
 
Shadydan said:
He's better than Gyokeres if not on par with him and Woolwich are winning the league.

Too much focus on one player to decide the entire team's fate, teams aren't using strikers how they used to anymore because they realise that the game is now won in other areas of the pitch.

The stars are the wide forwards, not the strikers...that's where the goals are coming from these days.

Have a look on the market and look for a clear upgrade on him who we can realistically get, you're going to struggle to find one.
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There's an interesting article about the lack of strikers on this BBC webpage, Shearer says kids don't want to be a number 9 these days as they don't get involved with many touches of the ball. There's also a trend of decline in CFs scoring shown on the charts.

www.bbc.co.uk

England football: The great number nine decline - where have English strikers gone?

BBC Sport takes an in-depth look at why England lack centre-forward options behind Harry Kane - a far cry from when the likes of Les Ferdinand only won 17 caps.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Shadydan said:
He's better than Gyokeres if not on par with him and Woolwich are winning the league.

Too much focus on one player to decide the entire team's fate, teams aren't using strikers how they used to anymore because they realise that the game is now won in other areas of the pitch.

The stars are the wide forwards, not the strikers...that's where the goals are coming from these days.

Have a look on the market and look for a clear upgrade on him who we can realistically get, you're going to struggle to find one.
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I'm not saying you are wrong, but I am unsure Solanke has the mentality that we need.

It's not just about the quality people think Solanke has or whether he is as good or better than Gyokores,but the mentality to deliver, even to that lower expectation..

It will be interesting to see what happens in the summer, most specifically if we remain in the PL.

I think we will see a lot of personnel change.
 
Notabadsquad said:
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I am unsure Solanke has the mentality that we need.

It's not just about the quality people think Solanke has or whether he is as good or better than Gyokores,but the mentality to deliver, even to that lower expectation..

It will be interesting to see what happens in the summer, most specifically if we remain in the PL.

I think we will see a lot of personnel change.
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Mate I haven't see any sort of 'mentality' from Gyokeres either, he's just benefiting from playing in a good team who camp in the opponents half, he's still been utter balls in most matches.

People overstate this too much about strikers these days, there's not much separating them and they don't need to do much in the modern game - they don't even need to be that decisive anymore.

Unless you can convince a Osimhen or an Alvarez to come to the club, I don't see many stand out strikers these days who are clear upgrades. We are in fact better served upgrading the players around him to get the goals.
 
Shadydan said:
Mate I haven't see any sort of 'mentality' from Gyokeres either, he's just benefiting from playing in a good team who camp in the opponents half, he's still been utter balls in most matches.

People overstate this too much about strikers these days, there's not much separating them and they don't need to do much in the modern game - they don't even need to be that decisive anymore.
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Where did I say Gyokores has this great or even better mentality? I stated mentality as quite defining. All players. I wasn't comparing the two.

All I have said is that I think we need to find a better striker than Solanke, if possible, especially if we stay up.

The rest is a non-issue.
 
Notabadsquad said:
Where did I say Gyokores has this great or even better mentality? I stated mentality as quite defining. All players. I wasn't comparing the two.

All I have said is that I think we need to find a better striker than Solanke, if possible, especially if we stay up.

The rest is a non-issue.
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You didn't, I'm using him as an example as you said Solanke would have us down in mid table and I'm showing you that not much separates him with Gyokeres. I'm saying that it's not merely about mentality of a single player it's more about the ability of rest of the players.

So as I said before it's all well and good saying we need to sign 'better' but better isn't possible unless we can attract a player who is clearly out of our sights and unrealistic.
 
Shadydan said:
You didn't, I'm using him as an example as you said Solanke would have us down in mid table and I'm showing you that not much separates him with Gyokeres. I'm saying that it's not merely about mentality of a single player it's more about the ability of rest of the players.

So as I said before it's all well and good saying we need to sign 'better' but better isn't possible unless we can attract a player who is clearly out of our sights and unrealistic.
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Fair enough.

Time will tell.

Survival first.
 
I like Solanke. I advocated signing him before we ever did. Before we were even linked to him.
I do think he's a good forward. We have just had our view of what good is, but having had Kane for so long.

But yesterday, I forgot he was still on the pitch midway through the 2nd half.
 
how we ended the game yesterday is how he and richy should be used, get the pair of them in the box with another forward and just get the ball in there, both are big and both will put defenders in battles. just get the ball in there, it doesnt matter how, either from keeper, CB, CM or fullbacks crossing.

if we was to try that then solanke would be the one from the front 3 to occasionally drop and support the midfield as hes better at holding the ball and laying off than the rest of the forwards.

-------------------vicario--------------------
porro-----rom---VDV--------souza
-------sarr---gray---gallagher
---------RKM-solanke-richy------------

with the players we have now this is our best route. its not pretty but it will be effective.

all this wide player stuff is just a waste of time for us, footballs due a change anyway.
 
Thought he was fine/good, ball sticks to him better than any other forward we’ve got and his link up is decent. Not expecting him to beat a couple of players and bang one in from 30 yards and he’s not going to run in behind. He’s a solid target man
 
Shadydan said:
He's better than Gyokeres if not on par with him and Woolwich are winning the league.

Too much focus on one player to decide the entire team's fate, teams aren't using strikers how they used to anymore because they realise that the game is now won in other areas of the pitch.

The stars are the wide forwards, not the strikers...that's where the goals are coming from these days.

Have a look on the market and look for a clear upgrade on him who we can realistically get, you're going to struggle to find one.
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I think Solanke is the type that thrives for certain type of football under a certain type of manager.
At spurs.... he seems lost.
 
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