I think Stand up is a bit harsh. We are simple trying to cope, knowing he won't go anywhere anytime soon.Posters on here still standing up for Levy / ENIC
They can't be real Spurs fans, surely
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Nah, I reckon the fans are fucked off with both. I want both gone
I wonder if the Newcastle players received their gold watches before or after the final
I think their owners would probably do something better than that, wouldn't you agree.I wonder if the Newcastle players received their gold watches before or after the final
These are people that, are in touch with football and embrace the glory.
Heard the saying 'be careful what you wish for'. 15th in table, crap manager, way off pace etc. I'm very careful what I wish for, wanted new owners.
I agree mate.
It was a joke aimed at Loser Levy dishing out commemorative gold watches before the final had been played
I'm grateful for sugar and levy being principled and sorting club out financially post 91 as we nearly went bust. But the game is about winning trophies.
Oo swipe me, no need to get catty because I questioned the almighty.
Nobody is basing it ONLY on the cup final though, are they? If Newcastle had done nothing since takeover but just won a random cup, nobody would be claiming them as a shining example of ambition.
The reality was they had instant improvement and huge investment with money pumped in by ambitious owners. They had to dial down due to FFP but their owners have invested huge amounts where they can and very obviously want them to win things and are willing to do whatever to achieve that.
This early cup is as a natural consequence of their ambition and smart moves. They have shown intent since day one of ownership.
You’re the one assuming people are saying they’re only looking to Newcastle in this way due to a league cup win .. that isn’t happening and you know it !!
They got taken over while in a relegation fight with huge debt and a terrible squad and a few years later have won a cup, are challenging for fourth (already achieved it once) and have invested hundreds of millions of their own money in to the club.
The achievements in that space of time are not that limited.
Got a side like Wigan who are below the championship but won a major trophy more recently than us too..
It’s a disgrace.
I met someone at the weekend who went to school with Levy, he claimed he was a snidey little git who everyone hated .
I totally made that up , but did anyone reading it think no fucking way that’s true
I totally made that up , but did anyone reading it think no fucking way that’s true
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Pochettino lost a semi final to Portsmouth...
my memories fucking shot.Nice stadium and training ground though.
Brand is growing globally.
What more can we ask for as fans?
Yes sorry you were right.
Meh, maybe you're right, maybe I'm reading more into it than people mean too. The post I originally responded said:
Superb post, nailed it in just a couple of paragraphs. We have been told that winning is hard, yet Newcastle has shown us with ambition aligned with a good coach and signings, what can be achieved, winning isn't that hard.
As subsequently explained, I have a few issues with that:
1. Whilst some idiots think it's funny or clever to claim otherwise, winning is hard, and anyone who says otherwise is simply incapable of understanding very obvious statistics and historical records of all the teams involved in competitions versus those that are consistently successful.
2. That post did seem to imply to me that the cup final win is the thing that differentiates us from them. However I do accept that it doesn't specifically say that, so perhaps that's an assumption I shouldn't have made.
3. If he's not talking about the cup final when he says "...what can be achieved", I would argue they haven't achieved a great deal else yet. We are constantly being told on here that "finishing 4th is nothing to be proud of or aim for and doesn't show ambition", and in any case it's not as though they've done that year after year yet, so it's a bit early in my opinion to be applauding their achievements. It's all just very premature.
You say "If Newcastle had done nothing since takeover but just won a random cup, nobody would be claiming them as a shining example of ambition" - but yet someone mentions Wigan a few posts later, so yes people absolutely are doing that, or at least drawing a comparison based on a single trophy win. You in fact! :/
I have no problem with anyone saying that Newcastle look to be moving in the right direction, that they seem to have more ambition than us right now, etc. I do have a problem with anyone saying that Newcastle (or indeed Wigan) are better than us simply because they won a final whereas we've lost several in recent years (which is what I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that was being implied in the post I initially responded to). That is not what differentiates us from them. That was my point.
Apologies by the way if I was a bit rude earlier, I was frustrated because multiple posters were criticising me for things I wasn't saying, but perhaps I did the same to others, plus anyway it's no excuse - my bad.
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It’s like that great card in Community Chest in Monopoly.
“You have won second prize in a beauty contest… collect £10”.