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The reaction to the current leadership is about more than wins and trophies. It has more to do with the lack of direction and the odd way in which the organization seemingly finds new and unique ways of making a shambles of managerial selections and player procurement. There are clever people and people with good judgment in the business world, but sometimes being more clever than possessed of sound judgment can lead you up blind alleys. That's what happens with Spurs time and again.
I think the above sums my position up very well indeed.
Off the pitch it’s been great - shiny new stadium, world class training facilities etc.
But there’s little point in these things if our management choices remain scattergun and the scouting/recruitment department couldn’t find a prostitute in a brothel these days.
There’s no doubt that the business side has done very well and that the club is financially huge compared to where it was when ENIC took over.
That they have one league cup to show for it and chose not to refresh the squad when Poch was making it very clear that it was required is utterly unacceptable.
When money has been spent it’s been generally squandered on mediocre tat.
Levy has held onto some players too long & yet allowed our most influential midfielder fuck off to China half way through a season where we ended up in the CL final.
We won’t ever have the financial clout of United or the state/oil owned clubs (unless we become one) but Daniel’s trigger happy finger where managers is concerned & poor footballing decisions (11th hour forgettable transfer dealings being my biggest issue in his tenure, alongside the transferless windows when we were within touching distance) have spoiled the foundations that Poch laid for future success.
I’m exasperated by this club and whilst I will always support the team, we are looking down the barrel of mid table mediocrity. I don’t want to be envious of the teams regularly in the CL and challenging for trophies.
We need to get back to being in the mix. With ENIC, I don’t think it’s going to happen unless they act sharpish, break the habits of their lifetime and invest heavily in a rebuild.
 
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Big clubs upgrade their facilities. It's not the 1960s where players would run around the park puffing on cigs

Players spend most of their working life at the training complex. You need a high class facility.
We need to do better with our youth team I agree but its so competitive. Most kids will not be good enough. We had a good crop a few years back sometimes it's luck.

You also need a manager who promotes youth. Mourinho & Conte were definitely not that guy.

Imho we have lost players who could have played a role.
So name these players who are setting the world on fire with their talent . It is another investment in property . You have to get the best talent to get the best youth team , we do not do that . We never have in my time supporting Spurs , with 4 or 5 exceptions in 54 years . ENIC have had 23 years to address this , fur coat no knickers as I said .
The idea that these youngsters would fail in a less luxurious environment is bollocks , the scouting is shocking . As for the senior players they ooze complacency and pampered footballer syndrome , pay the salaries they will come . Irrelevant as we have the facility now , but poor players , shit managers , shit owners = a bad outcome irrespective of the power shower
 
I'm not gonna argue against that. Again, the only way I got drug into this debate was pointing out that the truth is that Levy has been a good, but ultimately unsuccessful chairman. He's done some great things for Spurs, but has made some costly blunders. He's overseen a period of great consistent success in the league and european qualification, but fallen short of the glory that would have made it a golden era.

I just can't buy into this idea some want to push that he's been a catastrophe and try to cast the success he's had as a stroke of luck that anyone could have had.

I'd be more than happy for ENIC to sell up, but I find it extremely doubtful that they intend to any time soon.
So maybe you need perspective.

After stumbling on to a number of managers and players, think Rednapp brought into tidy the mess, think Bale brought in as a left back, we managed the double double with poch and kane, together with Erikson, djembele, Jan and Toby. We did well but right at that moment when we needed investment levy started the process of BS.. first we failed to invest in several windows because he was massively overspending on the stadium.
Then after cocking up and panicking the giant bald turd took it upon himself to change our entire direction and bring in Maureen, Nuno and Conte all guys who simply don't play our way and didn't have the tools at the club to play their way.

After several high profile transfer disasters, think Sanchez, ndombelle Emerson loceslo Richarlson etc we have a shockingly disjointed, technically inept squad which fits no one system or manager.

Levy will not sell his expensive flops freeing up the wage bill as he believes (because he knows nothing) that he can bring in a manager to boost thier utter shitness to help him recoup his losses, either that or a DoF who can loan them to someone better suited to achieve the same.

We now find ourselves lacking European football, with a huge wage bill, no manager, no DoF and the aforementioned shit squad, oh yeah and a stadium with a 300m overspend because thick cunt thought the good times were guaranteed.

Years of fucking other teams over have resulted in nobody wanting to come to us or do business with us. His miscalculations will only now become evident.

His positives will be far outweighed by his negatives
 
Aston Villa, Newcastle United, Tottenham and Roma could look at 27-year-old Wolves forward Hwang Hee-chan as they may have to sell players to meet financial fair play (FFP) rules. (Sunday Mirror)

The cynic in me thinks this could be a move by Levy to keep the tourists interested.
 
Looks like the club have paid off some loans but it doesn’t say which. Wonder why they’d do this or what they were?

Where can you see that? It looks to me that total borrowings is more or less the same?
 
From 1956-57: 2nd, 3rd, 18th, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 3rd, 7th, 6th, 11th, 3rd
From 2005-06: 5th, 5th, 11th, 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th (then 7th, 4th, pending 8th)
We also ran off 4th, 4th, 8th, 3rd, 10th, 3rd, 13th, 6th, 3rd in the 80's
And 6th, 8th, 5th, 1st, 1st, 2nd after the war.
The idea that we're a yo-yo side that nicked a cup here and there is a dead, flat lie.

Well said and well researched. It's about time someone put this myth of "little Tottenham over achieving" to bed once and for all

I hate the way some of our own so called fans are now debasing and belittling our historic trophy winning football club as a last line of defence for owners only interested in financial gain.

It would be bad enough listening to chavs or gooners running us down...but hearing it from our own!

I find it a bit disgusting to tell you the truth.
 
I think the above sums my position up very well indeed.
Off the pitch it’s been great - shiny new stadium, world class training facilities etc.
But there’s little point in these things if our management choices remain scattergun and the scouting/recruitment department couldn’t find a prostitute in a brothel these days.
There’s no doubt that the business side has done very well and that the club is financially huge compared to where it was when ENIC took over.
That they have one league cup to show for it and chose not to refresh the squad when Poch was making it very clear that it was required is utterly unacceptable.
When money has been spent it’s been generally squandered on mediocre tat.
Levy has held onto some players too long & yet allowed our most influential midfielder fuck off to China half way through a season where we ended up in the CL final.
We won’t ever have the financial clout of United or the state/oil owned clubs (unless we become one) but Daniel’s trigger happy finger where managers is concerned & poor footballing decisions (11th hour forgettable transfer dealings being my biggest issue in his tenure, alongside the transferless windows when we were within touching distance) have spoiled the foundations that Poch laid for future success.
I’m exasperated by this club and whilst I will always support the team, we are looking down the barrel of mid table mediocrity. I don’t want to be envious of the teams regularly in the CL and challenging for trophies.
We need to get back to being in the mix. With ENIC, I don’t think it’s going to happen unless they act sharpish, break the habits of their lifetime and invest heavily in a rebuild.
If ENIC are serious about this club achieving anything, they would use more of the 400m wiggle room they have with FFP.
But they are not interested in doing that, and if anything, will try to do all this on the even more cheap without European football.
 
Well said and well researched. It's about time someone put this myth of "little Tottenham over achieving" to bed once and for all

I hate the way some of our own so called fans are now debasing and belittling our historic trophy winning football club as a last line of defence for owners only interested in financial gain.

It would be bad enough listening to chavs or gooners running us down...but hearing it from our own!

I find it a bit disgusting to tell you the truth.
Levy Cucks and newbie fans.

Desperate to make real fans feel bad about expecting better.
 
Thing is all clubs make mistakes in the transfer market & with managerial appointments.
it's not something you can just point the finger at levy for.

Why are Everton & Leeds in imminent danger of relegation despite spending a fair amount of cash in recent years?
Everton overspent & got done with ffp didn't they?

The appointments post Poch imho have taken the club in the wrong direction but let's not forget we finished 4th last season. Also don't forget we were still sat in 4th this season when Conte threw his toys out of the pram.

The 250m wasted is it all on levy or is some of it bad choices by managers?

Ngl I think the squad needs work but I don't think it's any worse than Villa who put a good run together when Emery came in to fire them back up the table.

Players who Conte didn't use may be a fit for the new man?

See what happens, Maybe if things don't go well nxt season Enic decide they have taken the club as far as they can and look to move on?
Sorry it really is, there are mistakes and there is constantly making mistakes, virtually every decision Levy has made since 2019 (including sacking Poch) has been an utter disaster. That's why we are treading water and going backwards.
 
Business people largely will say he's done a good job.
He’s probably going to turn an investment from ENIC of less than £100m into £3b +.

Incredible piece of business in an industry where football clubs regularly fail.
Don’t think anybody can doubt his business acumen. He’s made money for himself and plenty of others and has an incredible stadium as a legacy.

Unfortunately since 2018 his football decision making has more often been wrong than right.

Huge summer and season coming up.

In terms of young talent coming through I think this has to be one of the worst group of players since ENIC arrived.
And I think a lot if that can be attributed to the short term thinking of appointing Mourinho and Conte.

Flip side of having that young world class talent is ultimately you have to sell them…….
 
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