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Sure, let’s check in when the Deloitte Money League 2024 drops in around February.

That will be a good moment to assess the notion that radical equalization of resources in the Premier League would make Tottenham MORE likely to win the title.
Which is when, of course, you'll point out that only 3 or 4 clubs have more revenue than us and thus we have a much better chance to win the league. Of course, City will win the title.

Then we'll revisit in 2025, and you'll explain the same theory to me. And then City will win the title.

Then in 2026, de ja vu. But maybe by then Saudi will begin buying titles. I guess you'll no doubt enjoy trying to explain to me how 8 years of Abu Dhabi and Saudi splitting titles proves me wrong.
 
Which is when, of course, you'll point out that only 3 or 4 clubs have more revenue than us and thus we have a much better chance to win the league. Of course, City will win the title.

Then we'll revisit in 2025, and you'll explain the same theory to me. And then City will win the title.

Then in 2026, de ja vu. But maybe by then Saudi will begin buying titles. I guess you'll no doubt enjoy trying to explain to me how 8 years of Abu Dhabi and Saudi splitting titles proves me wrong.
That of course somehow representing a lower-probability opportunity than the worst administered club in the division finding its way past 19 competitors with equal resources at their disposal.

Boy if we trebled Brighton's revenues, then we'd really be on for silverware!
 
Let's face it, up until the World Cup we were in a good league position last season. We had only lost games to Liverpool, Newcastle, United, Woolwich - and probably no accident that those losses were sandwiched between Champions League games.

Looking at our awful end to the season - we got 2 points from Southampton, Everton, Brenford, Villa, Bournmouth and Wolves. It is not unrealistic; had we had our early season form to have got 12 from 18 points out of that lot - which would have had us finish ...... 4th.

Losing our coach to illness, the death of our fitness coach, Son playing through illness, Richalison, Bentencaur, Kulusevski, Bissouma injured for much of the season. And of course Lloris form.

It is quite right to say, if we can keep THIS squad fit and motivated - they are for sure a TOP 4 side. Without doubt. Add to that we have Udoige, NDombele, Lo Celso, Reguillon as potential options if we choose to.

We have to improve to keep pace, since Chelsea will not be a pushover next season and, Liverpool will be back in anger. Villa will want to improve also.

Chin up folks!
 
That of course somehow representing a lower-probability opportunity than the worst administered club in the division finding its way past 19 competitors with equal resources at their disposal.

Boy if we trebled Brighton's revenues, then we'd really be on for silverware!
Again, theory. When reality says that many well-heeled clubs have been trying to do just that over the past 25 years and it's worked precisely 4 times.

Meanwhile in 25 years: 13 different NFL champions, 12 different NBA champions, 14 different NHL champions, 16 different NBA champions, 16 different MLS champions, 14 different AFL champions, 11 different NPB champions, 10 different KHL champions and 7 different IPL Champions (in 16 years).

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If it’s so boring - then stick your American passionless/Hollywood-ized sports and stop watching real football. We won’t miss you.

American sports - where players can move on a free from the NY Yankees to their “heated rival” Boston Red Sox and NY “fans” aren’t phased by it at all. Judas Campbell should have been born an American. Pathetic.

And European football isn’t just about the top flight. Go to a lower game and find out how much people in towns all over England care about their local teams. It’s about community pride, loyalty and passion. Something Americans (or at least you) don’t understand apparently. We don’t want your closed shop Yank.

You want to watch our game. Appreciate it for what it is - including the beauty of the pyramid. Is it perfect - No - is it better than what you lot have in America - Yes. We don’t need your stupid ideas for change based on your typical American arrogance and ignorance.
Yawn. You've been a member of this forum for 6 months. You read what you want and make the assumptions you want.

So American sports are shit because the players have freedom to choose their employers (after their contracts are up, of course, the same rights as European footballers)? That's a bit of an obscene opinion, in truth. And if you think anyone crosses from Red Sox to Yankees, or vice versa, and no one cares, then you're just displaying your own ignorance.

Here's a 10,000 word takedown by Bill Simmons of the greatest pitcher in Red Sox history. From back when Bill Simmons was as Boston as the tea party and wasn't a LA tit that never writes anymore.

You know how many people would still turn up with SpiderSpurs SpiderSpurs for Wealdstone next season if the fantasy facade of a chance that they could win the PL within the decade was removed? The same 1500 or so that go now. People aren't going to see their local clubs play because they have an infitisimally larger than zero chance of winning the PL one day. It's much more than that. Same for Wimbledon.

And, again, I'm not proposing closing the shop for the sake of closing the shop and making money. I wouldn't gain a penny. But, where we started this dialogue today was with a proposition for a means to limit spending. As I pointed out way back then, the only way to limit spending and effectively increase competition rather, than further reinforce the status quo pecking order, is to limit spending flatly and not link it to "revenue". The only way to limit spending flatly is to vastly increase revenue sharing. The only way you can vastly increase revenue sharing is to provide safety for the clubs giving up their financial advantage. Like I said before, I'd rather support a club in a competition they have a chance of winning, a competition where 10+ clubs start the year with an actual chance of winning, than say, "Isn't it a fine story they have in Luton. Shame they only have 7 points in December".
 
Yawn. You've been a member of this forum for 6 months. You read what you want and make the assumptions you want.

So American sports are shit because the players have freedom to choose their employers (after their contracts are up, of course, the same rights as European footballers)? That's a bit of an obscene opinion, in truth. And if you think anyone crosses from Red Sox to Yankees, or vice versa, and no one cares, then you're just displaying your own ignorance.

Here's a 10,000 word takedown by Bill Simmons of the greatest pitcher in Red Sox history. From back when Bill Simmons was as Boston as the tea party and wasn't a LA tit that never writes anymore.

You know how many people would still turn up with SpiderSpurs SpiderSpurs for Wealdstone next season if the fantasy facade of a chance that they could win the PL within the decade was removed? The same 1500 or so that go now. People aren't going to see their local clubs play because they have an infitisimally larger than zero chance of winning the PL one day. It's much more than that. Same for Wimbledon.

And, again, I'm not proposing closing the shop for the sake of closing the shop and making money. I wouldn't gain a penny. But, where we started this dialogue today was with a proposition for a means to limit spending. As I pointed out way back then, the only way to limit spending and effectively increase competition rather, than further reinforce the status quo pecking order, is to limit spending flatly and not link it to "revenue". The only way to limit spending flatly is to vastly increase revenue sharing. The only way you can vastly increase revenue sharing is to provide safety for the clubs giving up their financial advantage. Like I said before, I'd rather support a club in a competition they have a chance of winning, a competition where 10+ clubs start the year with an actual chance of winning, than say, "Isn't it a fine story they have in Luton. Shame they only have 7 points in December".
You don’t get it - so stop trying to “fix” something that isn’t yours and you don’t understand.

Being a fan isn’t just about winning the PL title. The football club is the lifeblood of towns all over England that don’t always play in the top flight like Leceister, Sunderland, Nottingham, Bolton to name but a few … We are not dooming their fans to permanent lower league football because some Yank thinks the PL isn’t entertaining enuf for him. You want parity and a closed shop - you have it right there at home. You don’t need to change everything in your image. Stop being an ugly American who thinks the American way is the best. It is no longer 1945.

… also you love Judas Campbell good for you - and your argument is stupid - Judas had the freedom to go to Red Scum - it’s not legally restricted- Just like you have the freedom to betray your friends/cheat on your wife. But if you do, your friends/wife will hate you for it and rightfully so … and so we hate Judas.
 
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I won't watch Luton v City, so could not care less. Not interested in who finishes 12th, 16th, or 20th. No more interested in that than who finishes 3rd or 6th. I couldn't tell you right now where Chelsea finished, just know the cunts finished behind us and that's good enough for me.
What about 8th?

What you will and wont watch is irrelevant here. There are a huge number of fans who do take an interest in the bigger picture.

Without entry to the PL, there is a ceiling that other clubs in lower leagues cannot breach. They wont be able to play the biggest and best because the opportunity wont be available. That's not what English football is about.

I do think it will head the way you're hoping and for some of the reasons you and others have cited. I think it will be a tragedy for the English game.
 
… also you love aJudas Campbell good for you - and your argument is stupid - Judas had the freedom to go to Red Scum - it’s not legally restricted- Just like you have the freedom to betray your friends/cheat on your wife. But if you do, your friends/wife will hate you for it and rightfully so … and so we hate Judas.
"Judas"
That Hillbilly sceptic tank cunt don't get it . He's so far detached up those Appalachian mountains and being inbred has effected his watch and chain .
More Deliverance than Walton's old mate.
 
I think most people are missing the point.

Top level Football is NOT a sport. It is a commercial enterprise. It is a TV show.

The same teams win each of the top leagues every year; whilst a false illusion of chance is created to encourage further gambling. - How many millions do you think is given to gambling companies by people who think they are backing the next Leicester miracle?
Best give up then
 
Let's face it, up until the World Cup we were in a good league position last season. We had only lost games to Liverpool, Newcastle, United, Woolwich - and probably no accident that those losses were sandwiched between Champions League games.

Looking at our awful end to the season - we got 2 points from Southampton, Everton, Brenford, Villa, Bournmouth and Wolves. It is not unrealistic; had we had our early season form to have got 12 from 18 points out of that lot - which would have had us finish ...... 4th.

Losing our coach to illness, the death of our fitness coach, Son playing through illness, Richalison, Bentencaur, Kulusevski, Bissouma injured for much of the season. And of course Lloris form.

It is quite right to say, if we can keep THIS squad fit and motivated - they are for sure a TOP 4 side. Without doubt. Add to that we have Udoige, NDombele, Lo Celso, Reguillon as potential options if we choose to.

We have to improve to keep pace, since Chelsea will not be a pushover next season and, Liverpool will be back in anger. Villa will want to improve also.

Chin up folks!

Shhh I think we are trying to keep it a secret. I fully expect us to have a good season next year (with Kane) because we will be under estimated. We always do well when that happens. Plus with no European distractions it should theoretically make the league easier for us with more time to plan for games. The squad needs quite a bit of work, which is a concern with no dog in place and running the show. That’s my current concern and is what could hold us back. Have a good transfer window though and keep Kane happy and motivated and you just never know what will happen, but I expect us to be up there.
 
Or how about our club, actually fucking start to win a few.
It's such a weak, pathetic argument. Isn't it. Usually put forward by people with little connection to the English game and the tribal, generational and emotional bond most fans have with their club.

I could reply to Harry " if you're not bothered about your team winning and challenging for major titles, why not go and support Barnet"

But I won't stoop to such childish nonsense.
 
Like I said before, I'd rather support a club in a competition they have a chance of winning, a competition where 10+ clubs start the year with an actual chance of winning, than say, "Isn't it a fine story they have in Luton. Shame they only have 7 points in December".
Why are we assuming that Luton will finish bottom? Brentford played their first season in the Premier League a couple of seasons ago and they've been holding their own. Brighton have become more competitive and beat us to European football this season. The Premier League has been more competitive than it has been for years. Woolwich would have won the league this season if they hadn't dropped points against West Ham, Southampton and Brighton and no one expected their team to be anywhere near fit for a title challenge in the pre-season for 22/23. We were the team people fancied as a dark horse for the league.

And all three newly promoted teams stayed up this season at the expense of established clubs who took their Premier League status for granted. That could be us next season unless we make big improvements to our defence. The football league system works.
 
Not really. Surely you watch football for more than just the glory of winning? Bonding with friends, the thrill of the hunt.

If you just enjoy the winning and lifting trophies; I'd suggest you would be far happier just following City.
Your an idiot!!!
Hope, Ambition, to be treated as a fan, to feel part of the club.
Not at Tottenham in 2023.

The disconnection with the fan base, ripping off fans at every turn, being treated like a customer.

This is what it is in 2023 being a follower of Tottenham Hotspur FC.
This is what Levy has wanted from day 1. Legacy fans are a problem to him.

As for your childish assertion about going to support citeh, you'll find that most of us have invested decades of support. It's a typical response from someone who has accepted mediocrity.
 
Let's face it, up until the World Cup we were in a good league position last season. We had only lost games to Liverpool, Newcastle, United, Woolwich - and probably no accident that those losses were sandwiched between Champions League games.

Looking at our awful end to the season - we got 2 points from Southampton, Everton, Brenford, Villa, Bournmouth and Wolves. It is not unrealistic; had we had our early season form to have got 12 from 18 points out of that lot - which would have had us finish ...... 4th.

Losing our coach to illness, the death of our fitness coach, Son playing through illness, Richalison, Bentencaur, Kulusevski, Bissouma injured for much of the season. And of course Lloris form.

It is quite right to say, if we can keep THIS squad fit and motivated - they are for sure a TOP 4 side. Without doubt. Add to that we have Udoige, NDombele, Lo Celso, Reguillon as potential options if we choose to.

We have to improve to keep pace, since Chelsea will not be a pushover next season and, Liverpool will be back in anger. Villa will want to improve also.

Chin up folks!
I like your enthusiasm, and if we sign a couple of quality defenders and a keeper you could be right. But it's a lot of ifs.

Top four is not a trophy, though we used to mock Woolwich for being all about that.
 
Your an idiot!!!
Hope, Ambition, to be treated as a fan, to feel part of the club.
Not at Tottenham in 2023.

The disconnection with the fan base, ripping off fans at every turn, being treated like a customer.

This is what it is in 2023 being a follower of Tottenham Hotspur FC.
This is what Levy has wanted from day 1. Legacy fans are a problem to him.

As for your childish assertion about going to support citeh, you'll find that most of us have invested decades of support. It's a typical response from someone who has accepted mediocrity.
Levy definitely doesn't want legacy fans around, he would rather have, people who just enjoy the day out and fuck the result.
People who, will gladly walk out of the spurs shop with, two bags of merchandise whilst enjoying "The Experience".
Legacy fans will, want to win things and put pressure on ENIC, something that they are against.
 
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