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How are you going to do that?
Really surprised that Levy hasn't got new T-shirts in the shop with Tottenham N17th on them.
"short skits"For those interested. Having just been on the train from Liverpool Street via Northumberland Park tonight I am very grateful for what Levy and co have bought to Tottenham.
Usually its litter, depressing looking dodgy folks and frankly horrible grey streets.
Tonight hundred of great looking ladies in cow girl hats, boots and short skits ( and I am sure some fine looking chaps too before someone suggests I am not a modern thinking inclusive type ).
Thank you Daniel. Thankyou. Never has the £14 return date been of such value.
Rock on Beyoncé
your finest TFC work ever
I thank you. The chaps in their short skirts need commending too
. Equally beautiful everyone.
I require a detailed plan of how you intend to achieve this.
You can use ChatGPT to assist you - I won't mind.
I expect this to be posted here within the next 24 hours or you're fired.
You wait, he’ll be selling Levy wigs next.
And the club is worth about 3BN more than when they acquired it for 30M (largely borrowed). All funded by investment by the fans
"Daniel Levy is running the biggest financial racket in English football "
They didn't buy it for £30m ffs. At least do some very basic research. The initial portion of around 30% was £22m. He (sugar) sold another 14% for £25m in 2007. Via Kondar Ltd, they paid £40m to take it up from something like 66% overall to 79%. In 2022 they then issued £150m of shares.
So ENIC has actually spent around £250m procuring the current stake in the club.
Bear in mind Sugar spent £8m to buy all his shares and easily made 10x the money back whilst setting the club back decades, hiring a gooner to bore us to tears as manager, and spending the Klinsmann money plus more on Chris Armstrong.
Both sets of owners are on for the same amount of profit, but one has at least made the club better.
But won a trophy, all real Spurs fans should have been buzzing for years.
The cruelest thing is the only managers to win us a cup in the PL era are, arguably, very far from the best league managers.
In terms of PPG, we have:
AVB (1.91),
Poch (1.84),
Conte (1.78),
Mourinho (1.77),
Redknapp (1.73),
Sherwood (1.65),
Nuno (1.65),
Jol (1.62)
Postegoclu (1.53),
Graham (1.46),
Francis (1.43),
Hoddle (1.35),
Ramos (1.35),
Gross (1.27),
Ossie (1.22)
(excluding short stints like mason/stellini/hughton etc)
A cup really just seems like an adrenaline shot, whereas the league is really the overall happiness of support. If we finished 15th every season but won a League Cup, I think people would start to devalue it like they did in the 90s. We should really be aiming to be at the top of the table and supplement that with some kind of cup win every now and again so that the fans don't get too disenchanted and get bantered.
Slight aside I know, but that table really shows how much we improved as a club (in terms of average league position I mean) from the start of this century until very recently (which is hopefully just a blip on the long-term upward trend). Expectations increased so much after the Poch era, so much so that most of this forum did little but complain at our results under Mourinho and Conte, yet they are 3rd and 4th in that table!
(For full disclosure, I liked Mourinho but detested Conte, but neither particularly for results reasons)
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On a different point, the new stadium was supposed to be a game changer but according to your list Mourniho, Nuno, Conte, Postecoglou, haven't caught up with Pochettino. Surely they should be way ahead.
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Yeah, AVB at the top is a scary one. I bet a lot of people would put him much lower due to how the results were remembered nearer the end.
I'd love to know who chose those players to spunk £100m on. Good £50m on Lamela and Soldado, and another £40m+ on Chadli, Capoue, Chiriches, and Paulinho. Vibes aside, and based on overall team quality, only Eriksen was a sensible choice.
Going off other team's tranfers and what they paid that summer, we could have instead had:
Eriksen £12m
Willian £30m (if he hadn't screwed us over) instead of Lamela
Arnautovic £2m instead of Chadli
Shelvey £5m insread of Paulinho
Bony £14m instead of Soldado
Wanyama £12m instead of Capoue
Lovren £8m instead of Chiriches
that's £83m so change left over. Not world beaters exactly, but we would have had a far better team out of it IMO, and perhaps AVB didn't burn out spectacularly.
Not saying it wasn't his fault - I have no doubt between Baldini and he they chose those fancy pants names over PL players.
(feel free to play anyone: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2013)
22M then. I’m fairly certain subsequent stakes were made by diluting shares rather than their own money
No.
And yes, ENIC sold stakes in Rangers and Slavia. How is that not "their own money"?
I loved me a bit of Chadli.
I did too, but he only really seemed to have a purple patch now and again, instead of being a player worth of starting (then dont' think he had a good game after his dad died - he seemed to lose his motivation which is sad).
Son started off that way but gained consistency.
Worth saying I loved Lamela too, but I wouldn't pay £30m for him again. Certainly wouldn't pay £30m (or whatever it was) plus him for Gil either