We have flopped tonight. That perception of us is embarrassing today.And to think that, along with Roma, we were supposed to be the biggest team in the competition.
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We have flopped tonight. That perception of us is embarrassing today.And to think that, along with Roma, we were supposed to be the biggest team in the competition.
It's not all down to Nuno. It's everybody. If Spurs can't raise their game to qualify from this group in the ECL, we should just let hopes and dreams go... there's a trophy here. Why would these players not want to try and win this? Doesn't matter if it's not the CL.... they can't win anything else this year....It's down to Nuno, though. Crazy selection policy for the ECL games.
Not exactly digging Conte's selections today but hardly any scope for error.
We deserve it, getting beaten by Mura. It's worse than Colchester a couple of years ago.We have flopped tonight. That perception of us is embarrassing today.
I think you're a bit OTT.It's not all down to Nuno. It's everybody. If Spurs can't raise their game to qualify from this group in the ECL, we should just let hopes and dreams go... there's a trophy here. Why would these players not want to try and win this? Doesn't matter if it's not the CL.... they can't win anything else this year....
Because these players think they are too big for this competition, when actually, is is their level. They need a reality check.It's not all down to Nuno. It's everybody. If Spurs can't raise their game to qualify from this group in the ECL, we should just let hopes and dreams go... there's a trophy here. Why would these players not want to try and win this? Doesn't matter if it's not the CL.... they can't win anything else this year....
I didn't mean we can't win anything else this year... got that wrong... just think players need to value a competition like this and raise themselves for it.It's not all down to Nuno. It's everybody. If Spurs can't raise their game to qualify from this group in the ECL, we should just let hopes and dreams go... there's a trophy here. Why would these players not want to try and win this? Doesn't matter if it's not the CL.... they can't win anything else this year....
I find it so funny you classify the last 20 as all the same
Yeah - I don't think I meant what I wrote after I re-read it... we can win something, if we play at our best... we just need to bring a proper level to this competition. You can't just win football matches by thinking you're the best. You have to actually play the best...I think you're a bit OTT.
Nuno dissed the comp so much that we wound up with a game tonight that we had to win.
Then Conte tonight dissed Mura and picked the wrong players.
I don't think our reserves are that bad. I really hope we field a good side in the last game and qualify.
Although the play off games are "inconvenient" I would rather we play them than not.
I think you're a bit OTT.
Nuno dissed the comp so much that we wound up with a game tonight that we had to win.
Then Conte dissed Mura and picked the wrong players.
I don't think most of our reserves are that bad. I really hope we field a good side in the last game and qualify.
Although the play off games are "inconvenient" I would rather we play them than not.
I find it so funny you classify the last 20 as all the same
Like being under Hoddle was the same as when we were challenging for titles and CLs under Poch
but yeah.. 20 years of nothing eh.
I think there's a bit of that... lots of them have played CL though, so if the team was working properly, some of them have a point because they have played at a higher level... but they are not there right now....Because these players think they are too big for this competition, when actually, is is their level. They need a reality check.
No. You are not alone.
This is not worse than Zagreb. We can still qualify in this competition.They were the bottom ranked team of the competition who actually rested players and we couldn't beat them. Son, Kane, Moura, Hojbjerg, Skipp...
I didn't think that Zagreb feeling could be topped and yet here we are. Right now, I'd happily ship most of the team out and start again. Their inability to overcome these situations is very sad to witness.
Conte comes in and they're still mentally shot. This just reinforces my belief that they'll never have what it takes to win trophies for us; the old guard especially. They're damaged by hubris and the experience of failure after failure. Like an infection, it's spread to the newbs and youngsters.
Two windows of furious activity is a must.
So kane scores a hatrick against mura as a sub and is shit, son does fuck all as a sub against the same shit and is first team quality. No agenda there then.It’s my concern too.
There is no fixing this.
We are literally at a stage where Son and Lloris are the only true first team quality in the whole squad
I disagree.