Agree apart from last bit about academy. We won’t ever know as all have been shipped at expense of purchased young players who are probably no better but bcos we bought them they are deemed instantly better than our own young players. Can anyone say for sure that Devine is nowhere same level as berg or gray. Or young Will would have just as ineffective as £40M Tel. Imagine Tel playing for Oxford he’d look crap. Is he really 40M times better than Will. Same with host of other players. Plus they would show some passion and heart. Frank is never giving any of our academy a chance. Look at the way Scarlett has been treated. The young kid with dbl barrel name looks quality but he won’t play him. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving them a chance,
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Match Fulham (H) - 29/11 - 8pm
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I don't think any of the top players have any desire to join this club. They're all looking for European football and massive wages
The player is a fraud.
Never a PL starting keeper.
Who was he flapping his gloves at when he made yet another howler?
Well, on the positive side, that type of result would decide Frank's future one way or the other.
Said before Frank is an underdog manager. Denmark are underdogs when they enter the finals of a tournament. 92 Denmark were underdogs in the euros as got in through the backdoor and won it. I'm sorry losing to Fulham at home is non negotiable. Frank has to go.
What a humiliation! I can't recall having seen anything so ab-so-lute-ly fucking stupid as Vicario AT 1:0 DOWN ALREADY! No way our mentality monsters would recover from this. Frank I hold blameless for the most part, the only thing I don't get is why he still plays Richy, who is just so utterly useless these days. Why keep playing him?! That being said, never boo your own player during a match. NEVER.
Still here we are, the biggest laughing stock in a league including Pool and ManU. if I was a fan of the scum I would just take the piss and gloat and mix it up with some pretend pity and know that my club is running away with the title. This might become our shittiest season in living memory.
Still here we are, the biggest laughing stock in a league including Pool and ManU. if I was a fan of the scum I would just take the piss and gloat and mix it up with some pretend pity and know that my club is running away with the title. This might become our shittiest season in living memory.
Good post. May I add that at this point, I consider our academy as just a grooming facility to produce the players we need to use for home-grown players quota, Just to comply with the rules. Scarlett is a big example of this. Why would you keep this kid around for so long and never give me a decent run to prove him self? The answer is, he is there to make the numbers only.
Most keepers if not all are producing howlers in just about every game including all the top keepers. I dont even have to bother to mention them all. Its a unwelcome trend thats been going on for a while now. Having said that Vicario does save us often with some excellent saves. Of course theres no excuse though for blatant stupidity.
Yes - Bergvall was telling him to applaud the home fans and he told him sod that.
Sarr came in to calm it down Porro stormed down the tunnel taking his shirt off.
Porro is definitely one of those who thinks he's better than Spurs and doesn't want to be here. He berated the fans a few times at the corner flag for not cheering hard enough....., all whilst having his worst game ever for us.
To add to the bolded part regarding the wisdom of welcoming those shots:
They're not low percentage attempts as a rule. Funnily enough, what makes them that way is the football teams' usual willingness to take them seriously and deal with them accordingly by throwing bodies in the way. Once you start taking things for granted and getting out of the way like we've been doing under Frank, they suddenly start posing a much bigger threat.
This graphic from the broadcast that shows Fulham to record an xG of 0.35 was from the end of the first half. We could only guess the xG attributed to their first goal, but it must be significantly lower than 0.35 since that was hardly their only attempt until that point in the game. It was an accumulation of:
- First goal+ second goal + another shot from the edge of the box that hit the woodwork I can vividly remember + others
When you're getting out of the way to invite the opponents to take those, that percentage probably skyrockets.
Frank is getting led astray by a faulty piece of math that misses this nuance I presume
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Not a big fan of individual booing but as you said i can understand. Fans are sick to the back teeth of the shit show going on
so what yuo are saying is "players should be putting their bodys in the way" if we had on weds night we woud have stopped to goals (think it was Gray & Roddy that turned sidewards as player shot)To add to the bolded part regarding the wisdom of welcoming those shots:
They're not low percentage attempts as a rule. Funnily enough, what makes them that way is the football teams' usual willingness to take them seriously and deal with them accordingly by throwing bodies in the way. Once you start taking things for granted and getting out of the way like we've been doing under Frank, they suddenly start posing a much bigger threat.
This graphic from the broadcast that shows Fulham to record an xG of 0.35 was from the end of the first half. We could only guess the xG attributed to their first goal, but it must be significantly lower than 0.35 since that was hardly their only attempt until that point in the game. It was an accumulation of:
So by all indications, xG of the 1st cannot be higher than something like 0.20. In other words, they have 20 percent chance of going in. Well I disagree, I think this estimate takes it for granted that they are being defended reasonably well.
- First goal+ second goal + another shot from the edge of the box that hit the woodwork I can vividly remember + others
When you're getting out of the way to invite the opponents to take those, that percentage probably skyrockets.
Frank is getting led astray by a faulty piece of math that misses this nuance I presume
This has the smell of the Nuno reign all over it .
After the Villa game at our place I think Frank explained his thinking on this in presser or interviews after match. Said the long range worldie strikes by Morgan Rogers are things he’s prepared to risk cos the xG from such positions is generally low… so Frank thinks it’s low risk to let opponents have that space outside our box but the evidence of the last few games would say this is quite wrong esp as we seem to give up on denying oppo space and time for shots at edge of our box.
Hes also the reason we are where we are
Conte had kane and son. Also the fulham players werent gutless prima donnas
I can't see anyone defending Richy
He's as likely to be unavailable as he is to start up top and be completely anonymous... scores a screamer once or twice a year but misses sitters. Tracks crosses like he's got one eye. What's he offer that anyone could tout?
This is where I'm at now. Not only are we losing, but the manner of how we're losing means we're getting close to putting this shitty nightmare behind us. He should've got the same treatment Nuno had, how he's still here is beyond me. Every loss is a step closer.