I think we've solved our free kick problem, gents
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Yes, especially the grammar part which is a lot more complicated than English.
The easy thing with Spanish (I think it might be the same with Italian too, not so much Portuguese or French tho) is that pronunciation is easy - once you learn how letters and combinations of letters are pronounced you can say literally any word you come across - your accent might be really strong (like Bale's and Beckham's) but you will be understood. The pronunciation of letters never changes.
By contrast, pronunciation is a never-ending problem for foreign speakers of English, even after years of learning. For example...
Speak for yourself, Bill. Up in Castille you speak how it's written. Here in Murcia we don't pronounce half the letters!Yes, especially the grammar part which is a lot more complicated than English.
The easy thing with Spanish (I think it might be the same with Italian too, not so much Portuguese or French tho) is that pronunciation is easy - once you learn how letters and combinations of letters are pronounced you can say literally any word you come across - your accent might be really strong (like Bale's and Beckham's) but you will be understood. The pronunciation of letters never changes.
By contrast, pronunciation is a never-ending problem for foreign speakers of English, even after years of learning. For example...
Agreed and i remember watching him pre season before he left and his strength and technical ability had gone up another level yet further. His rate of progress at that time was match to match, day to day, where with most players it was measured in years, never seen anything like it before or since.
Hahaha, truesay, but most of us learn the King's Spanish, not that peasant grunting from down south
My Spanish is shit (still I am able to survive if I go there and I have even worked there), but I think that Italian would be slightly easier than Spanish for a foreigner, as the grammar has similar complexity, but at least in Italian sounds are always the same: if you read something you know exactly how to pronounce it, and it's always the same soundYes, especially the grammar part which is a lot more complicated than English.
The easy thing with Spanish (I think it might be the same with Italian too, not so much Portuguese or French tho) is that pronunciation is easy - once you learn how letters and combinations of letters are pronounced you can say literally any word you come across - your accent might be really strong (like Bale's and Beckham's) but you will be understood. The pronunciation of letters never changes.
By contrast, pronunciation is a never-ending problem for foreign speakers of English, even after years of learning. For example...
Yes, the difficulty of learning English for me was the pronunciation, and (hopefully very occasionally still is), after 18 years... The example you made is great and is making me laugh. Another classic for me is "cannot" and "cunt": I like to think that I have mastered the difference (after all I still have a job
)I still have a fairly strong accent, though, but people seem to be ok with that
That was the point I was trying to make, that Italian and Spanish are easy to pronounce because they're so regular and "phonetic" - I wasn't 100% sure about Italian, thanks for confirming!My Spanish is shit (still I am able to survive if I go there and I have even worked there), but I think that Italian would be slightly easier than Spanish for a foreigner, as the grammar has similar complexity, but at least in Italian sounds are always the same: if you read something you know exactly how to pronounce it, and it's always the same sound
Yes, the difficulty of learning English for me was the pronunciation, and (hopefully very occasionally still is), after 18 years... The example you made is great and is making me laugh. Another classic for me is "cannot" and "cunt": I like to think that I have mastered the difference (after all I still have a job
I still have a fairly strong accent, though, but people seem to be ok with that
I liked the can't/cunt thing made me laugh, my wife throws up her hands at that as well!
Incidentally, "foreign" accents are no longer frowned upon in the teaching world and beyond, they're now given the same regional status and respect as are the various accents of English spoken by native speakers. The days of insisting on BBC English/Received Pronunciation (received from who, the ruling class? - little bit of politics there!) are thankfully long gone
I quite like accents (English accent in Italian is great!), but I do my best to make myself clear (which honestly happens almost always) and to speak English to the highest level possible. Sometimes I listen to foreign people who don't really make any effort to learn English to a decent level, and I feel sorry for you guys
Are you a teacher?
I loov the way Rafa Benitez pronounces 'Club' as 'Cloob', because he learned it up north. I also like the way European footballers who play up north develop a 50/50 mix of their accent + Manc or Scouse.
Jan Molby was a superb example of Scouse Danish and Oli Gunnar S used to be quite funny too.
Whereabouts in Italy you from mate?
I am from Turin area (half blood northern Italian, half southern). In Italy I support Torino
I guess you got southern Italian background?
Any ITK about Belotti?
I cannot see him coming. Hey is the pillar of Torino and they would be mad to sell him, unless it's for a quick and overpriced sale (not loan). Also, everything has gone totally quiet in the last few days . Of course, there are still a few weeks, but I think we will get somebody else
He’s definitely English. Claims to have an American wife but he’s as English as a meat pie.
Gareth checking the full time score on the 18th Green....
Quick. Cancel the signing. No need!
