Pretty sure he'd have a great impact for us. Wouldn't be on pens but would create lots of chances for Kane and Son. Jose would love him, he has a great competitive attitude, doesn't seem to get injured much, goals from play, takes free kicks and works hard. Also, his chance creation isn't reliant on set attacking structures and as we've seen with Dier, Harry and Toby this year, Jose won't drop players because they punt away lots of possession. I like Lo Celso but Fernandes would have managed a lot more for us by this stage had we signed him.
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Ex-Spurs Player Giovani Lo Celso
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What do you mean? (Not necessarily disagreeing - I actually don't know what you mean - sorry if I'm being thick, I'm mildly hungover today...)
Do you mean Fernandes wouldn't have been as successful if he had only signed for United in the summer rather than in Jan?
Or do you mean he wouldn't have been as successful if he had signed for us in the summer?
Or was it a typo, did you mean 'this side' (i.e. Spurs) rather than 'this season'?
Genuinely not sure what you mean, sorry!
I don't think he'd have been anywhere near as successful if he had chose to sign for Spurs over United.
He wouldn't have been the main man and he wouldn't have been on penalties.
Add to that how poor our form was under Poch and Mourinho - he'd have probably suffered the same criticisms the likes of Ndombele did due to his transfer fee.
Him and Utd are almost a match made in heaven.
Personally I think if we signed him in January, between now and then he may have just about scraped 6 or so league goals and a few assists.
But nothing out of the ordinary.
If we'd sold Eriksen that window they probably would've gone for Bruno
Not sure what really happened because we could of ended up with Dybala too?
Dybala and Lo Celso? Or just one or the other?
One of three left footers who spend too much time on the treatment table.
Wow ok. I'd be more inclined to think as
Doc
does above. To me he seems perfect for Spurs and perfect for Jose, and is one of the types of players we have desperately missed this season. Obviously Spurs haven't been playing well recently, but to be fair United weren't playing well for much of this season - they were behind so many times and just about won games with last minute goals etc, so much so that OGS's job was under threat. I never saw Fernandes particularly suffer because United weren't playing well - to me he seemed to carry on producing the goods himself regardless. Great attitude. Sometimes cheats and does look like a horse etc, but great attitude and great player nonetheless.Oh well, it's a game of opinions I guess, and given that we can't go back in time, I guess we'll never know...
I agree with a bit of this.
He would've improved us for sure he's a good number 10 who's got a good passing range and shooting ability
He'd have less goals due to not being on penalties and also playing under a more defensive manager but I think he would've been good.
You're right, he's wrong.Wow ok. I'd be more inclined to think as
Oh well, it's a game of opinions I guess, and given that we can't go back in time, I guess we'll never know...
another massive waste of money
Bloke's never fit
Bloke's never fit
we're missing him badly
Come on, why hide your point. Just come straight out, say you hate everything Mou does and you think he does not know one thing about football. Why are you trying to create some blabla around it.
If you are saying that player of Bruno's quality wouldn't have had major impact in the team where he could have worked with players like Son and Kane instead of donkies in ManU shirt, you are straight up blind. Or extremely agenda driven.
In his last season even the half-hearted displays from Eriksen were at times enough to save us wins draws. Now imagine him being out of the door and creative player such as Fernandes coming in ?!? That would have made world of difference. And this season - even more so. I can't even imagine how much more difficult it would have been to play against team that has in-form Kane, Son, Ndombele and Fernandes in, compared to alternative of playing with traffic cones like Bergwijn, Lamela, Sissoko and Winks.
Sure his goal return would not be as high as in ManU. But there is much more of his play than just scoring penalties, in case you have missed it.
Fernandes is an incredible player that would have been a great signing for anybody, anyone who thinks he's just a penalty taker is an idiot.
Bruno Fernandes is better than Lo Celso. Or at least a better fit for English football. I don’t want to hear that penalty nonsense. We can also rate other teams players. Let’s not be like Liverpool fans.
These Argentinian silky players are brittle as glass
Is it really only 1 goal and 3 assists in 39 premier league matches? And only 2,000 minutes in total?
Injured a lot too, must have missed about 20 league games?
Not good numbers and hardly plays. Awesome.
Injured a lot too, must have missed about 20 league games?
Not good numbers and hardly plays. Awesome.
What a bargain
They are very different players. Lo Celso was our best player last season but this season has been a write off with injury, the concern with him is another Lamela Constantly out injured.
Lo Celso is a number 8, he is good at getting involved centrally, great control, dribbling and combative for the ball. Fernandes is less productive in the middle but is dynamite in and around the box, he is similar to Dele 3-4 years ago, same strengths and weaknesses. Lo Celso is more competing for the same role as Ndombele.
United have set up like Poch did with Dele to get the best out of Fernandes. We don’t set up to get the best out Lo Celso and his injury situation is of deep concern.
exactly that. imo lo celso is better suited deeper than ndombele when we are against a side sitting deep and against a side coming out hed be better ahead. could be a nice partnership once they get fit together for a peroid, with hojbjerg being the anchor. good ingredients for a midfield 3
I actually think that Lo Celso is versatile enough where we don't have to set up around him to get the best out of him. He can play as an 8, a 10 or on the wing and still contribute to the team. Last season he mainly played as an 8 and steadied our midfield. But at Betis he was played as a 10 or on the wing and contributed with goals.
There is room in the 11 for both Gio and Tanguy with the right setup.
Earlier in the season it was like
Hojbjerg Lo Celso
Ndombele
That didn't work
Now it should be either
Hojbjerg Ndombele
Lo Celso
OR
Lo Celso Hojbjerg Ndombele
Play him in advanced midfield or with the other 2 , not deeper than Tanguy and not on the wing
Once Gio is back we should rotate between him, Lamela and Dele as the "10" in the lineup.
Pierre and Tanguy behind them. Gio can always drop down if Tanguy needs to come off. Or start as the 8 if Tanguy needs a rest.