They have world class stretches, games and moments, but I'd agree, aren't world class.
Both have big glaring weaknesses in their games that can't be ignored.
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Both have big glaring weaknesses in their games that can't be ignored.
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Sadly supporters of teams get carried away.
Apparently, if some on this board are to be believed, we had a team with at least 5 "World Class" players starting that got utterly horsed by a competent well drilled team.
If Kane is genuinely "World Class" then either he's downed tools or lost the desire for football.
The rest, well Sonny may be close, but others are a simple no.
Or improved upon.
Where I do disagree is your assessment of their world class capability.
You either are in that category or you are not.
To be in it I believe you demonstrate capability for a period and definitely when it matters the most., even if that is just 2 or 3 times a season.
Neither has done that in real significant terms.
Bale was our last world class player.
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I'm a bit torn.
You don't have the goals against all the truely top teams without being World Class, and Kane has scored against all the big teams.
The question is, is he still World Class, and currently nothing suggests he is.
We had chances though in the first. Needed Regi to put in a slightly better ball in the 3 v2. Son got dragged back and could have score too, and that really bad locelso shot . Sharpness missing so far in the final 3rd. But if we play like how we did in the 1st half, I think it can get better.
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They made a hashof at least two great opportunities, Havertz air shot being the worst one.
But good sides get over mistakes and kick on. We kicked ourselves in the bollocks.
His output last season reinforced that he is.....
Binning his track record just cos he's got his head up his arse atm is dumb.
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Possibly you are right.
But Kane has never scored in the biggest games mate. Look at the facts.
I just don't see a world class striker but no doubt he is very good at his best.
You're really getting your money's worth from that gif!!This season, Kane has been
Definitely need to create more. But goalscoring personnel are definitely very very important too.
We arent as good as them. Havent been in years.
I was saying that we did do some good things and showed enough that could be built on.
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He has scored against the biggest teams, Barca, Real, Bayern, Juve, City, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.
As a striker you can't do much more.
Agree with you he hasn't done it in the biggest games, and I don't think he has it in his locker anymore.
That £100million culd have been well used, but not by the Italian prick.
They are the European champions for a reason mate the will create chances. As did City. Against attacking sides as good as that you will give up a couple of chances. Think the substantive issue is our failure to build on the luck we had.
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See I don't know.
Chelsea were very open, lots of space between the lines and individuals. Few teams will play that way.Those that do have better midfields, more composed players and better managers.
It's what we do against teams playing counter attacks with a solid defence and midfield is where it really matters as we'll face that most weeks.
Absolutely but there's a tag that gets labelled, unfairly IMO, on Berg for example. Given the position and more importantly the role he's been asked to perform (under the dinosaur almost as a FB!!!) he's only had literally 1 no more than 2 chances in a game. He's come pretty close however with his opportunities, they've not been Townsened'd into row Z for example.
Kane scored loads because he had a high volume of shots (under the dino his volume disintegrated because of our style of play but everything came through him and Son, this was how we set up, it gave little to no opportunity to anyone else).
I think he's more than OK but given the role Nuno wants of him isn't clear yet so it's really hard to assess. (an out and out wingers goal contribution is usually single digits per season anyway, so don't think it should be a yardstick for his performances).
These names are intresting because their was a period when not talking about Bowen because we could have got him, but there was a time when we could have seriously have taken Richarlason and Neto from Everton and Wolves and I genuinely think this is what we should now focus on doing
Not in a silly (Lets mug Villa for Grealish) way. But politely ask Wolves what they want for Neto the same for Rahpino at Leeds and meet it. I think its important that if we have any ambition we start acting like the big club we pretend to be.
Yep and where we are most exposed .
Too many questions at present for us and too many that are goung unanswered.
Getting Tanguy to last an hour would help