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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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NDomBadBoy said:
Do an apples to apples comparison then. Problem solved

Goals against the Premier League Big 4 since 18/19 season:
Son: 11 goals
Aubameyang: 10 goals
Salah*: 10 goals
Mane*: 9 goals
Rashford*: 9 goals
Vardy: 8 goals
Jiminez**: 7 goals
Calvert Lewin: 7 goals
Martial*: 7 goals
Richarlson: 7 goals
Lacazette: 6 goals
Sterling*: 6 goals
Firmino*: 5 goals
Ings: 5 goals
Kane: 5 goals
C Wilson: 3 goals
Jesus*: 2 goals
Wood: 2 goals

*Only includes games against 3 of the top 4 teams
**Jiminez missed the majority of last season due to head injury
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But that's just you and your "I have one stat with zero context" idiocy .....

How many minutes played? - why worry about that?
How many assists? - why worry about that?
Who was injured for the big four team?
Was it a 'B' tean post or pre a CL or Cup game?
How many were penalties or free kicks?
Were any games played against ten men?

The reason we don't take a tiny handful of games with zero context, extract just one statistic in isolation, is because doing that is meaningless drivel ....

But hey you repeat your one unquantified statistic and convince yourself Kane is finished - if that makes you happy go for it ....

The rest of us will look at ten years of data, goals AND assists, European performances, International performances, independent player ratings, and indeed the views of senior professionals within the sport .... not some keyboard troll with a fixation .... if that's OK with you.
 
SpurFromOz said:
How much time do you have on your hands ?
Credit to you for the research, but it seems you wont alter any minds mate.
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No worries if it doesn’t change minds yet but they will start noticing things more often than not once someone points them out. The first step is always denial. Then over time they will become convinced.

Or maybe your right and it’ll be like trying to convince Ahab Ahab that perhaps the elections weren’t rigged and that the capitol riots weren’t staged. 😂
 
The Outsider said:
But that's just you and your "I have one stat with zero context" idiocy .....

How many minutes played? - why worry about that?
How many assists? - why worry about that?
Who was injured for the big four team?
Was it a 'B' tean post or pre a CL or Cup game?
How many were penalties or free kicks?
Were any games played against ten men?

The reason we don't take a tiny handful of games with zero context, extract just one statistic in isolation, is because doing that is meaningless drivel ....

But hey you repeat your one unquantified statistic and convince yourself Kane is finished - if that makes you happy go for it ....

The rest of us will look at ten years of data, goals AND assists, European performances, International performances, independent player ratings, and indeed the views of senior professionals within the sport .... not some keyboard troll with a fixation .... if that's OK with you.
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You know… if you don’t like that statistic and don’t agree with the context of that list, all you would have to do is just ignore it and move on rather than to justify it using arguments that have nothing to do with the original statistic. C’mon man!!!!

To be honest, I haven’t read any of your posts closely but I find you fun to wind up, especially in the American Politics thread.

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The Outsider said:
Kane 65 games 41 goals for England ....

Salah 73 games 45 goals for Egypt ....

But hang on Salah scored all those goals against Niger, Togo, Chad and Comoros ... not once has he scored against a top ten international side ... so no BIG GAME international goals.

Does that mean Salah is shit? or simply that he can only score against the teams he plays?

Tottenham striker Harry Kane set a new record by taking just 24 games to reach 20 UEFA Champions League goals - but, but, but he can't do it against the big teams ......... try another line of bullshit.
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No it means Salah scored in and won a CL final and scored 19 goals in a season his team won the PL.
That included 6 goals and assists against Chelsea, City, Utd and us.

Salah also scored against Real Madrid, City home and away and three against Utd last season, while scoring one less than Kane in the PL.
But LASK and Brighton are where the real players are turning up.

And what’s all that got to do with Kane scoring 4 goals in 3.5 seasons against the top 4?
 
sammyspurs said:
No it means Salah scored in and won a CL final and scored 19 goals in a season his team won the PL.
That included 6 goals and assists against Chelsea, City, Utd and us.

Salah also scored against Real Madrid, City home and away and three against Utd last season, while scoring one less than Kane in the PL.
But LASK and Brighton are where the real players are turning up.

And what’s all that got to do with Kane scoring 4 goals in 3.5 seasons against the top 4?
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How many goals did Salah score against any top International side - ZERO - does that mean he must be rubbish then?

Stupid argument but no more stupid than yours ... did Kane play against Real Madrid last season? ... did Kane play against City this season? .... what you mean he only scored in the games that he played in, like LASK and Brighton? shock horror, what's wrong with him?
 
SpurFromOz said:
How much time do you have on your hands ?
Credit to you for the research, but it seems you wont alter any minds mate.
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Which is the problem.
Kane doesn’t perform against big teams anymore.
People have gone from saying “he does” to “he can’t because….” to “it doesn’t matter” to “what about Salah”

Now I’m waiting for the response to Salah stats.
2 goals away to Atletico last night and somehow that’s just like Kane to some
 
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NDomBadBoy said:
The New Narrative #2 From the Kane Cult:

Kane is world class because he's scored x goals and had x assists.

Other stats are irrelevant because they can be manipulated to fit anyone's narrative. Who cares who the opposition is - a goal is a goal!

That said, Carlos Vinicius's 10 goals and 3 assists in 22 apps last season SHOULD NOT be given the same credit as Kane's goals and assists because it was against poor opposition.
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sammyspurs said:
Which is the problem.
Kane doesn’t perform against big teams anymore.
People have gone from saying “he does” to “he can’t because….” to “it doesn’t matter” to “what about Salah”

Now I’m waiting for the repossessed to Salah stats.
2 goals away to Atletico last night and somehow that’s just like Kane to some
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So now your supporting Salah? maybe you and NDomBellEnd should get a room and hug it out ... you're never going to convince a Spurs forum that Kane is now a terrible player ... good trolling but ultimately it's a fail.
 
The Outsider said:
How many goals did Salah score for a top International side - ZERO - why must be rubbish then.

Stupid argument but no more stupid than yours ... did Kane play against Real Madrid last season? ... did Kane play against City this season? .... what you mean he only scored in the games that he played in, like LASK and Brighton? shock horror, why he must be rubbish.
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Kane played against the top four 24 times in the last 3 seasons and scored less goals that Salah did against them just last season

Why are you talking about Egypt?

Did Danny Ings play against Real Madrid?
So I cant say Halland is better?

Are you for real
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sammyspurs said:
Kane played against the top four 24 times in the last 3 seasons and scored less goals that Salah did against them just last season
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Kane has scored agisnt all the major International sides, Salah hasn't scored against even one of them ... so feckin' what?

You don't measure a player on a tiny selection of games when you have a whole season to review ... that's just childish manipulation of statistics that fools nobody.

You may think Kane is now rubbish ... but he isn't ... get over it.
 
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