Can only assume they are struggling to find someone to take over. He should be sacked anyway though. The stories coming out are pretty grim.
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That is what I mean, and Santini quit, back in the blessed days when that used to be a thing.
At the end of the day, the reason Frank should have been sacked more quickly is not the results (he got the sack as soon as we really sunk into the relegation mire), it's the culture behind the scenes which is now widely reported to have been curdling rapidly.
Hard to know how Levy would have handled it. The disastrous state he left the club in produced a riskier and worse set of options than he'd ever had to address while he was here.
Explain our very good start to this season then...All the Ange haters couldn't wait to tell everyone "look, a proper manager getting more out of these players than shitty Ange could.....see!!! We told you Ange was no good"
WHy can't you and the others accept that this club keeps buying badly in the transfer market. It happened before Ange, during Ange, and after Ange.......our squad isn't good enough, not enough genuine quality, our better players are frustrated by it.
Levy, Paratici and Lange have led us to where we are right now. They built this crap squad that everyone is laughing at and manager after manager is struggling with.
Mason wasn't a disaster in the slightest - he came in and got a couple of wins and a draw off a 3rd placed Man Utd off the back of the wreck that was left after the newcastle humiliation.
Considering the team had mentally checked out for the season, he did a pretty decent job
I feel a bit sorry for Frank.
I really don't think anyone realised how badly damaged this squad was.
I'm not entirely sure anyone could have done much better tbh.
Had a much better squad at his disposal though.
They'd only lost a few games here and there. Had Kane to pull off miracles, too.
Nobody was going to be pulling up trees with this bunch, but a stronger character would have had us clear of the drop, I feel confident in that.
Frank was badly miscast as a leader of a club of this size, and other clubs who had considered him in the past figured that out before making the mistake of giving him a job he couldn't do.
Ok, where did Man Utd finish last season in the league? The Man Utd that lost to us in the EL final
Did they do better in the league this season league position wise until Amorin was sacked?
Doesn't need explaining, every year you see shit sides have a small purple patch and be in surprising positions early in the season, eventually the table ends up with teams where they deserve to be.
If you want to see a real pattern then you look longer term, and it's no coincidence that this years relegation battle follows immediately after a season where we finished 17th, a season where we were becoming more and more hopeless by the week in the league. I can't say it often enough, ALL of the faults you see in our play this season, were there last season. People just liked it more then because our fullbacks were in the 10 position and our centrebacks were sprinting like mad every 2 minutes.
It's not a case of being an Ange hater or the opposite, Ange was shit, Frank was too shit to redeem matters, and Tudor is too shit to salvage the wreckage as of now. Nor is it a binary Manager or ownership is the problem deal, all 3 were shit managers working for shit owners.
The players may not be good enough for where we thought we should be, but there's no way they're so bad that we should be getting relegated. That isn't caused by the owners buying players not quite good enough to win trophies every year, it's caused by sub-standard management and coaching.
Of course, the owners are responsible for selecting these rubbish managers, or at least selecting/persevering with the idiots that chose these managers. They, Ange, Frank, Igor, Levy, Vinai, Lange, Paratici - they are ALL culpable.
we won 6 and lost 7 out of 16 before Mason came in (22pts from 16 games)
he won 2 and lost 3, including playing Liverpool and Man Utd (7 points from 6 games)
It was due to nose-dive under Stellini, so I don't really know what else was expected so late in the season tbh
Easy. Relatively full health and a weak slate of fixtures happening before we had to start playing twice a week.
Bar Pep's hilarious Spurs hoodoo, there was nothing impressive at all about our first 8 or so games.
Fighting back to draw with Bodo away was probably our second most impressive result of that period, in retrospect.
I don't recall Amorim bragging that he decided to sack off the League at the mid-way point of last season to try and excuse his abysmal performance so I'm not sure the two examples are really like-for-like.
But yeah, I believe they were higher in the league when he left than where they finished last season, as were we at that point.
What is the point you're getting at? And do you believe it's a total coincidence that we're in the final stretch of the season balls deep in a relegation battle, immediately after the season that Ange took us to a 17th placed finish last season?
We were a mess. Remember Stellini and Newcastle away?
And if you are saying Mason wasn’t a mess, why didnt have to deal with the residual effects of Stellini?
How come it’s only Ange that’s still to blame 2 years later, even though he dramatically improved things from what he inherited?
Yes, we were a mess
Mason helped to bring the team back to some semblance of order
We finished 8th that season, 2 points off 6th, on 60 points.
The following season we finished 5th on 66 points. Basically a minor improvement considering there was no mid-season disasters
He brought stability to utter chaos. Which is the case for his appointment now.
There's just less to Ange than both sides of that never-ending debate are willing to admit.
He's just a regular football manager with a recklessly aggressive style and a penchant for grandiosity in front of a microphone.
We got the best he was ever going to be able to offer us, and I can't understand people's unwillingness to just thank him and move on.
The football was dogshit lol he was like a Temu Jose long before Temu was a thing.
Same with actual Jose and Conte, to a degree; the football was awful. Mad times. I'd go back to those days in a heartbeat.
That’s not the question here,
People still blaming him for Frank even Tudor!
It’s bollox
He was in for 6 games.
It's absurd to want a complete change in playing style from an interim for that length of time