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Manager Igor Tudor
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"you" weren't saying anything. You jumped into a reply that didn't involve anything you said and started trying to win an argument that wasn't being made. Quite simple, really
It does seem like he's already lost he squad because when all the rumours come out like they have today, it's normally being leaked by someone.
Fuckifino who we should turn to but it's pretty clear that Tudor isn't getting anything out of this bunch of players.
this team with a prime kane OR son in it would probably stay up and this is the worst team i've had the displeasure of seeing represent us. anyway, i'm judging mason on what he's done since he left us which is very little. our bunch of prima donnas won't respect him and won't put the effort in. if mason joins we're going down imo. hope i'm wrong but just can't see him keeping us up if he does join.
Oh, sorry, I didn't realise it was a private conversation.
I was replying to the general conversation and a point that you had made, I wasn't trying to "win" an argument, I wasn't even trying to have an argument because I'm not a fucking child!
I was just questioning how anyone can use the previous managers tenure to defend the shocking job that Frank had done - we've seen plenty of managers turn clubs around overnight before.
And if that wasn't what you were saying, then I apologise for misunderstanding your posts.
Jesus Christ, this place is like stumbling into a group of bitchy teenage girls struggling with the hormones of puberty at times.
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Jose win% in the pl that season was 43% and we’d been on the slide big time. We’d been top earlier in the Season.
Mason had 57% win rate when he took over.
Stellini had a 25% win rate, including that Newcastle game…
Mason had 35% win rate to end the season.
They aren’t mind bending improvements but they aren’t completely insignificant. He knows the players and he’d pick them in their right positions. He had a good bounce to start life at WBA . A bounce is all we need
Really? How old are you because some of us have seen something much worse!
I don't actually think that ability wise, this squad is particularly bad but it's disjointed, disheartened and has been failed by those in charge.
We're making them look bad.
Stellini managed us for 4 whole games. Judging him by win percentage is a bit off, it’s a miniscule sample size and it’s coloured by our weird decision to get rid of conte (who turned toxic) with his assistant.
I don’t really recall what anyone would describe as a “bounce” either time and I don’t think anyone on here does either. It was respectably mediocre both times with a very slight uptick in performances & results.
The situation now is far more dire and difficult to navigate.
er, no. this bunch of players think they should be playing for real madrid when in reality their level of performance and effort would suggest southampton if they're lucky. so many ass hats playing for the club. hard for a manager to get a tune out of them but i agree vinai and lange are awful and are mainly to blame for our current plight. i've been supporting spurs since 1990 and this is easily the worst side i've seen since then. no fight, no guts, shit players.Really? How old are you because some of us have seen something much worse!
I don't actually think that ability wise, this squad is particularly bad but it's disjointed, disheartened and has been failed by those in charge.
We're making them look bad.
Really? How old are you because some of us have seen something much worse!
I don't actually think that ability wise, this squad is particularly bad but it's disjointed, disheartened and has been failed by those in charge.
We're making them look bad.
VDV, Romero, Kudus, Solanke, Porro, Udogie, RKM, Bergvall, Gray
Talent wise, those lot walk into so many 90s and early 00’s teams
Tudor has had 4 games
Club weighing up Stellini as a Igor replacement
I don’t think Tudor should be sacked yet nor do I think it’s fair to judge Tudor overly harshly on the utter shitshow he’s been handed, and finally I am not convinced that any of the names bandied about achieve much of anything with the current state of the side.
I do still believe we can stay up - the fixtures after Liverpool are reasonable and if we beat Forest at home the jobs halfway done. It’s not some impossible task. I obviously don’t think the squad is as good as you do, but I don’t think it’s any worse than West Ham’s at all, we’ve just got a totally crushed spirit at the absolute worst time combined with a sort of sense that the penny hasn’t dropped like it has for forest or West Ham.
Losing in the Premier league became acceptable under his tenure and we currently haven't found a solution.
Of course he isn't to blame for this season...its Thomas Frank and the boards failure of not being able to fix the issues that were so evident under Postecoglous reign.
To be fair to Frank or his coach he did fix the set peice issue.
Wouldn't work. The squad would just think "Igor's woken up looking a bit hungover today"
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tudor has done absolutely naff all. nothing. nada. he hasn't improved one aspect of our play or brought any confidence to the side. 3 at the back with porro as one of the back 3?!?!? wtf!! if he stays we're going down. convinced of it. i agree there are no stand out names to replace him but if i was vinai and wasn't such a twat i'd be begging redknapp to try and save us. last roll of the dice time.
We haven’t seen a bounce from him. It’s a horrible position for anyone, but for me, we have to roll the dice again. I don’t see where the next win is coming from under Tudor.
May make no difference. But we’re only going one way with him.
This is just silly. I could equally say "Winning trophies became acceptable under his tenure" and it would be equally as valid to Frank success/failure in that respect.
We are losing loads of game because we have half a squad to choose from and that squad is fairly mid already. The only difference is that Postecoglou at least made his players believe. If Frank was unable to do that then that's on Frank and the Powers That Be who appointed him and the program around him.
All the rest of it is cope.
Edit: I do agree Frank was put in a shit situation because his players would be forever comparing him with someone who won them a major trophy and made them believe they were capable of stuff they actually aren't. But that needed to be priced in when Postecoglou was sacked and a proper Summer window would have brought in the type of players to get us challenging for those things they promised. That window never happened. Everything else flows from there.
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