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Management In search of Mourinho's successor.

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Rangnick's the guy I want - initially as coach to see us to summer then for him to move up and oversee a complete restructuring, and appoint a head coach under him, but I'd take Ten Hag no problem, I'd also live with Favre, Rose - I quite liked what I saw of Slot's AZ team, but he's already been bagsied by Feynoord.

The more important thing by far for me going forward is that we change our whole philosophy and structure, put in place some kind of long term vision for how we want to operate, create an identity as a club, DOF to oversee this, rejig the recruitment structure (players and coaches) to match this philosophy and don't change the philosophy when we change managers. If a manager doesn't fit the philopshy and structure then don't hire him (and have to change the philosophy, recruitment and structure etc around him, or make him work in a structure that doesn't fit)

Levy is a good businessman, a great administrator, but it's time he went back to the DOF model properly, get Rangnick in and give him carte blanche to restructure from the ground up.

This is the logical progression and it amazes me more clubs dont restructure around an ethos and really stick with a model of sustainability. Only the select big guys can just plug and play with managers, but where we are and with how we operate, a RB scouting model with a long term plan makes most sense.
 
If he’s on £15m a year wouldn’t we have to pay around £22.5m to sack him with 18 months left?

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Bargain

Surely he has to stay until the summer.
He must play more expressive soccer but only once he has his players.
Even at United he won something.
 
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Rangnick's the guy I want - initially as coach to see us to summer then for him to move up and oversee a complete restructuring, and appoint a head coach under him, but I'd take Ten Hag no problem, I'd also live with Favre, Rose - I quite liked what I saw of Slot's AZ team, but he's already been bagsied by Feynoord.

The more important thing by far for me going forward is that we change our whole philosophy and structure, put in place some kind of long term vision for how we want to operate, create an identity as a club, DOF to oversee this, rejig the recruitment structure (players and coaches) to match this philosophy and don't change the philosophy when we change managers. If a manager doesn't fit the philopshy and structure then don't hire him (and have to change the philosophy, recruitment and structure etc around him, or make him work in a structure that doesn't fit)

Levy is a good businessman, a great administrator, but it's time he went back to the DOF model properly, get Rangnick in and give him carte blanche to restructure from the ground up.
What you say about the role of the DoF there is spot on. I think it tends to get simplified in Britain - they're all about the signing of players and that's it really.

It goes so much deeper than that. Indeed the recruitment part is probably one of the lesser important ones - there are only two windows after all and in any case the decisions are a group process including at least the Chairman and the Head Coach and possibly others as well (Pleat advised Levy for example), and during non-signing periods the bulk of the work should fall on the scouting network. It's far more about ensuring a consistent structure, following all the levels from the youngest kids upwards, the scouting and so on.

One of the best football interviews I have read was with Fernando Hierro, the former Madrid and Spain centre back an DoF for the national team from 2008 to 2018 (I think). He explained how Spain, who were consistently seen as the great underachievers, completely changed their philosophy under him, moving away from the big-lad-up-top model (seeing as Spanish players are generally shorter than northern Europeans) and focussing instead on what they do best - skilful passing. He set about changing this mindset right down to grassroots kids football, so that the young uns could progress through the ranks and slot in at higher levels when needed. There was a lot of other stuff too - training schedules, nutrition and so on, but the focus was the same, a common approach whatever the age.

He was a great defender, no doubt about it, but he always came across as a bit thick (my father-in-law was less forgiving, calling him subnormal, which needs no translation). The interview made me rethink my attitude to him completely and realise just how much he thought about the game and the clarity of the conclusions he reached.
 
I don't see any of the top managers coming here in the current state that were in with a huge number of players that need to be offloaded.

Poisoned chalice at the moment.
Dont agree at all have you seen our stadium and training facilities there would be a very long list of better coaches than the one we have wanting the job. I think Rodgers would leave Lecister (for example) just not mid season we actually over pay the coach and under pay players. None of the list below would turn it down. Ragnick Naggelsmann dream team is the wet dream.
Rodgers
Ten Hag
Allegri
Gallardo
Potter
Howe
Benitez
Rose.
 
Dont agree at all have you seen our stadium and training facilities there would be a very long list of better coaches than the one we have wanting the job. I think Rodgers would leave Lecister (for example) just not mid season we actually over pay the coach and under pay players. None of the list below would turn it down. Ragnick Naggelsmann dream team is the wet dream.
Rodgers
Ten Hag
Allegri
Gallardo
Potter
Howe
Benitez
Rose.
Levy was discussing the European model when he appointed Jose of ‘3 years’ (or thereabouts). So you’d probably scrub everyone except Benitez and Allegri (and maybe Ten Hag) off that list as the rest aren’t of that ilk - high impact and short tenure.
 
I may need to lay off the crystal meth but I reckon Jose wins the Carabaro cup and EL this season and somehow one of the worst seasons of football I can remember will go down as being one of our most successful! :mourshock:
 
Rangnick's the guy I want - initially as coach to see us to summer then for him to move up and oversee a complete restructuring, and appoint a head coach under him, but I'd take Ten Hag no problem, I'd also live with Favre, Rose - I quite liked what I saw of Slot's AZ team, but he's already been bagsied by Feynoord.

The more important thing by far for me going forward is that we change our whole philosophy and structure, put in place some kind of long term vision for how we want to operate, create an identity as a club, DOF to oversee this, rejig the recruitment structure (players and coaches) to match this philosophy and don't change the philosophy when we change managers. If a manager doesn't fit the philopshy and structure then don't hire him (and have to change the philosophy, recruitment and structure etc around him, or make him work in a structure that doesn't fit)

Levy is a good businessman, a great administrator, but it's time he went back to the DOF model properly, get Rangnick in and give him carte blanche to restructure from the ground up.
Some excellent points raised here.

A big issue that should be raised as a result of this sorry affair is that Daniel Levy’s influence on who our next manager is should be scaled back immeasurably. Rubber stamp it sure, but he should not be leading the process. Mourinho is just the straw that broke the camels back, it’s one bad appointment too many.

As you say, we had achieved something huge under Pochettino in the shape of an identity, a philosophy we could build on and a way that our club was viewed throughout Europe. For him to just throw all that out the window so that he could appoint his childhood crush Mourinho was gross incompetence of the highest order, and could literally set us back years.
 
For me it has to be Harry until end of season. For all the shut about “run around” we actually played some great stuff. We beat Wigan 9-0, bar codes 5-0 and many other games. He just needs to motivate the players and give the players confidence. He”ll defo tell them they are better footballers than the current manager would have them believe ! The players must think they are League 2 standard having to play this shite of defending all the tine. This guy is a fraud can’t say it enough said it in the other topics. He. Just makes good players look crap exactly what was said in his last spell at Chelsea. Remember this is the count that left RM to come back to his first love Chelsea after being sacked by them a few years prior. Never trust him his a mercenary. End of season go for Rodgers or any of the other foreign coaches every one has me think but please no defensive coach playing the sane shite.
 
For me it has to be Harry until end of season. For all the shut about “run around” we actually played some great stuff. We beat Wigan 9-0, bar codes 5-0 and many other games. He just needs to motivate the players and give the players confidence. He”ll defo tell them they are better footballers than the current manager would have them believe ! The players must think they are League 2 standard having to play this shite of defending all the tine. This guy is a fraud can’t say it enough said it in the other topics. He. Just makes good players look crap exactly what was said in his last spell at Chelsea. Remember this is the count that left RM to come back to his first love Chelsea after being sacked by them a few years prior. Never trust him his a mercenary. End of season go for Rodgers or any of the other foreign coaches every one has me think but please no defensive coach playing the sane shite.
Harry has not worked in football for 7 years aside from the odd interview. He is not in tune with the modern game or the modern player.

Appointing Harry Redknapp, even as caretaker. Would signal for all of our big players to hand in transfer requests. Because that is having negative ambition to move forward.
 
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