Thought he was an attacking CM
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Transfers January 2023 Transfer Thread. The Big One
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Thought he was an attacking CM
Kulusevski's role in our team is similar and he usually cuts in from the right to open space for the wing back. When Atalanta use their 3-4-3 formation he is one of the wide attackers, who are just wide 10s.
And Malinovskyi being a more traditional AM at his core offers us the option to play with one should Conte want to.
You can see where Rafa was coming from regarding Ziyech (not league winning) that he could play the play maker role from wide.
Wait, why the hell should we take 29 yo Carrasco who in my eyes have never even proved to be top class player?
And de Paul does not seem at all this kind of creative CM that we would need.
This sounds very much like buying player because they are available, not because they would be fitting to our needs.
And this is awful approach really...
Not buying back-ups but competition.
That would be what I personally would be expecting.
And that is clearly winning strategy in the market. If you go in, on purpose to get inferior player to have "cover" for someone, you will get average player, do not give him significant playing time and tie him to overpriced contract, you are almost guaranteed to lose.
Only one mistake (even leading to goal) would be less what Royal provides you game-by-game basis...
on loan would be fine.
Only that these numbers mean fuck all.
They are scored for very freeflowing Atalanta team, whose approach is "you can score 3, we will score 4".
Would you say that Conte approach is the same or different from that?
* my two posts on him does not mean that it would be the worst thing to sign him. Between options of signing him vs not signing anyone, I would pick option of signing him.
Just I feel that we should buy quality over quantity. And I would much rather go for someone who could push others bit more and be a potential star like Maddisson (you know, same league, younger, more goals, HG)
Yup. Ziyech's strengths would suit our attacking system very well.
But he would be a super bad fit for a Conte team because he is not a hard worker. He's a luxury player.
Not leaving Barca...
Retiring.
In his statement he said that he has always told that there would not be another club after Barca, and he keeps that word. Plays last game and then is finished with top level football.
Even if he wasn't retiring he's well past his best, wouldn't do much for us regardless.
Buying players in January is usually not particularly successful as the best players are not available - our purchases of Kulusevski and Bentancur were exceptional against any other January transfer window that Spurs have ever had or pretty much any other club.
I've assumed Paratici has checked out other alternatives (if indeed Ruslam is definitely coming - remember he is known for taking 3 or 4 deals to the finishing post before signing a deal.
Also worth remembering that Leicester have Maddison on a deal for a couple more years and may take the view that selling Maddison may well relegate them. In which case whatever the bid for him, its insignificant by comparison with relegation and loss of PL revenues. And that is why Maddison may not be for sale.
Conte may well be saying to Paratici, we are a forward short in not having an alternative to Kulusevski, and with him and Richarlison out for a a couple of weeks plus now Son;s injury - who is the best available alternative to Kulusevski who is available now ? If that is Ruslam Malinovskyi, get him !
Mainly an AM, but has been known to drop back into CM and play an attacking role slightly deeper than a no 10 would be
See my previous post,
Agree on quality but it has to be 'quality who is available' and that is tricky in January.
Also Kulusevski is the one player where we have no alternative in the squad who has anything like his creativity or goal scoring ....... so for this one position we want quality, but we do actually need a player (ie quantity).
I think we need to wait to see if he is actually announced as a signing. Plenty of time for other better players names to drop..... and as you know Paratici is known for chasing 4 or 6 possible players for the same position.
But if Ruslan Malinovskyi is the best available, he is at least a big upgrade on Moura or Gil (atm) .... and ok as effectively 5th forward (after Kane, Richarlison, Son, Kulusevski).
Atalanta want to sell players hence all the publicity.
Lots of outlets want 'Clicks' to generate traffic .... and revenue to them . What better way than to link Spurs with a player known to be available without doing any research as to whether we might want them at all.
Not sure Spurs would want either player - although we were linked with Carrasco in the summer as a potential RWB, which he can play. But not sure he's an upgrade on what we have already ..... so no point at all in buying to sell on Doherty or Royal
We were linked with Carrasco in the Summer to be fair but with Udogie coming in in the Summer now I think it's pointless unless we're after a short term fix.
If Gil was trusted when we’d have a decent complement of options for 3 (occasionally 2) positions. The fact that we can still line up with Kane and Lucas desire being without Son, Richarlison and Kulusevski on Sunday, and have Gil off the bench, is testament to that. The unfortunate thing is that of the 6, we’ve lost our 2nd, 3rd and 4th beach options at the same time instead of say 2nd, 4th and 6th. There’d be no concern about our depth if it was Son, Richarlison and Gil out right now.
However, Gil clearly isn’t going to be trusted any time soon, rightly or wrongly, so getting him a loan and bringing in sometime Conte is comfortable starting is a must. What I’d like is some variation too. Richarlison, I like him but not completely sure what he is yet, Kulusevski is our only really imaginative/ aware option from the non-Kanes, and Lucas/Son are both players with waning powers are struggling when not presented with open space (especially Son, though he’s of course the far superior player).
Even if not the same style, I really want someone who has Deki’s ability to do something unpredictable while staying composed enough to make the pass he wants to make, when he wants to make it. Doesn’t necessarily have to be an rw either for me, I’m more concerned with roles than positions/ formations. Deki can both carry the ball and make the right pass, so if rather someone who could do that from the left or even the middle then another runner with no awareness on the right. And if it means Son ends up playing from the right sometimes, fine, he can do what he does from any position in the front 3.
He might be 30, but I’d love Sarabia, who is bit part at PSG but was superb for Sevilla for a few years and seemingly also on his loan to Sporting last season. Huge upgrade on Lucas.
However, Gil clearly isn’t going to be trusted any time soon, rightly or wrongly, so getting him a loan and bringing in sometime Conte is comfortable starting is a must. What I’d like is some variation too. Richarlison, I like him but not completely sure what he is yet, Kulusevski is our only really imaginative/ aware option from the non-Kanes, and Lucas/Son are both players with waning powers are struggling when not presented with open space (especially Son, though he’s of course the far superior player).
Even if not the same style, I really want someone who has Deki’s ability to do something unpredictable while staying composed enough to make the pass he wants to make, when he wants to make it. Doesn’t necessarily have to be an rw either for me, I’m more concerned with roles than positions/ formations. Deki can both carry the ball and make the right pass, so if rather someone who could do that from the left or even the middle then another runner with no awareness on the right. And if it means Son ends up playing from the right sometimes, fine, he can do what he does from any position in the front 3.
He might be 30, but I’d love Sarabia, who is bit part at PSG but was superb for Sevilla for a few years and seemingly also on his loan to Sporting last season. Huge upgrade on Lucas.
I think everyone would like better players, and see the wisdom of buying younger players ideally with PL experience (as its a lot tougher more physically demanding league than most).
Just a question of the availability of the better alternatives.
So we are broadly on the same page - but if no better players available I'd certainly take him as we need an alternative to Kulusevski now
I understand what you are saying. But I do not agree*.
I personally rather see players played out of position and taking more risks with players from academy or whatever. Or alternatively even overpaying for someone who would be a better fit. Because availability is ALWAYS matter of price. Every player for every club can be brought for some kind of money.
I just mean that if you buy a player that is available, but expected to be backup from the start, it likely means following -
- he does not get a lot of playing time
- which means he does not develop or learn as much as with more playing time
- which means his value will most likely drop
- for a new player we have to offer reasonably long contract - say 3 years is minimum and that means we do take significant obligation
- now if previous points both happen, it means we have player with declining value and long contract with most likely considerable wages - and that ties your hands for say 3 years.
It is not problem for likes of ManU, ManCity or PSG. They have money-printers in basement. But more limited your resources are, less reasonable it would be to buy player who does not fit and for half of the season hinder your resources for three years.
* well, of course actually life is scale not binary - and in some situations life might force your hand bit more and actually this available player could be bit more or bit less suitable; so not meant as absolute statement to never buy player who would not be fully perfect. Not am I saying with this that Malinovsky would be awful purchase either.