Jimmy Greaves

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Jimmy Greaves has been airbrushed from history – he is the true goalscoring reference point, not Alan Shearer

JEREMY WILSON CHIEF SPORTS REPORTER

English football did not begin in 1992; it was simply rebranded.
And is there a career and set of records that have retrospectively benefited more from this historic airbrush than those of Alan Shearer?
It is not Shearer’s fault, but every time there is some sort of goalscoring landmark, as there was this weekend with Sergio Aguero’s 12th Premier League hat-trick and 177th goal, the reference point is the same: Shearer, whose 260 Premier League goals is a record. You will know this because Match of the Day rarely miss an opportunity to point out that their star pundit was also the competition’s greatest ever goalscorer.
Except that he’s not. Not really. Not unless you think that changing the name of a competition that began some 104 years earlier - and still keeping all the same clubs, venues, players, rules and basic formats (with two fewer teams) - somehow makes that a new competition.
Holder of most of the real records is in fact Jimmy Greaves. He scored 357 goals in 516 league matches between 1957 and 1972 for Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and West Ham United, which is actually 74 more goals than Shearer in 43 fewer games.

Shearer, who also scored 23 times in the old First Division, is actually fifth on the real list with 283 goals.

For further context, Wayne Rooney is 21st and there are 27 players who have scored more than 200 top-flight goals. Aguero, for all his brilliance and authentic status as the top overseas goalscorer, is not yet among them.
This desire only to start history in 1992 would be more understandable if football was somehow distorted previously and the records of yesteryear were out of reach and untouchable. But they are not. Greaves scored at a rate of 0.69 goals a game - almost identical to the two best of the current era (Aguero 0.69) and Harry Kane (0.68) - and comfortably ahead of Shearer on 0.51.
Indeed, what is striking about the real list of leading top-flight goalscorers is the spread of eras and how the exceptional domestic feats even of post-war goalscorers like Ian Rush, Geoff Hurst, Tony Cottee, Denis Law and Nat Lofthouse have become comparatively forgotten. Dixie Dean's 310 goals in 362 games between the two world wars is also jaw-dropping and too easily overlooked.
The greatest casualty in terms of recent recognition, however, is undoubtedly still Greaves.

His all-time record for goals across the ‘big five’ European leagues was actually only recently broken by Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Just stop and think about that. An English footballer - Jimmy Greaves - stands with only Messi and Ronaldo in the entire history of football as one of the leading three goalscorers in the major European club leagues.

Of the individual league records, it is also only Messi, with his La Liga record of 432, and Gerd Muller with 365 Bundesliga goals, who stand above Greaves’s haul in English club football of 357.

Greaves should be nationally revered and yet few people now seem to remember any of this, with BBC and Sky Sports (as well often as the wider media) invariably content to stick with less meaningful but more easily sourced reference points.

It is good to sometimes get the shorter-term context - and no one is disputing Shearer’s status among the very best British goalscorers - but then you wonder how an obsession with current and recently retired players impacts in other areas.

Greaves also played in the England team that won the World Cup. He won Serie A, two FA Cups and the European Cup Winners Cup. He is now very ill and, although he might not much care, has somehow never been honoured.

Shearer, with his one Premier League title and relentlessly plugged Premier League goalscorer’s record, is a CBE and there is a statue of him outside St James’ Park.
Kane, with no silverware or records as yet, is an MBE.
No one wants to wallow unnecessarily in the past and pretend that things were much better in yesteryear. But when something was, as with Greaves’ phenomenal goalscoring record, shouldn’t we also sometimes say so and ensure that is the true standard by which emerging greats like Aguero and Kane are measured?
 
I'm actually happy for him and his family because living with a debilitating stroke is a horrible existance.

My dad had a massive stoke and was left in a similar state to Jimmy, to see him reduced to that was absolutely heartbreaking for everyone.
 
It's taken a couple of days to get my thoughts together after this, absolutely devastated.

I once met Greaves in the Brookmans Park Hotel, back when Chivers was running it (not sure if he still is as I haven't been that way in over 30 years). I was just a youngun at the time, and the Old Man took me over there to meet Martin Chivers. We were in the bar having a chat with MC, reminiscing about games that my Dad had watched, and the ones he took me to back in the late 60's and early 70's, when in walked Greaves. Don't worry, he wasn't drinking, he'd just popped in to say hello to MC.

After saying hello, I was a bit overawed as this man was my Dad's all time hero, we said we'd leave them to it, but Greavsie being an absolute gent, invited us to join them.

I still remember that night as one of my most Golden memories. We were treated to a feast of story telling that had me in tears of laughter. The one that sticks out the most was the story he told about how he'd been on the lash one Friday night, got plastered and, worried that he'd not make the game the following day, he drove to WHL and kipped in the car! He then went out and scored a hat trick with a banging hangover!

I really don't do the story justice because no one could deliver a story like Greaves, I've never seen my Dad laugh so much.

For most, the memory of Greaves is from his Saint and Greavsie days or, for the real olduns, his sublime gift as a striker.

For me the memory is of an absolute gent who went out of his way to entertain a youngster he'd only just met and a man who held him on a pedestal.

Heaven's 11 just got the greatest striker the World has ever seen, and the banter in the bar afterwards just went up a level.

RIP you wonderful man, you are sorely missed already.
 
Condolences from an Everton fan. A fantastic goalscorer, one of the best football pundits who was never afraid to speak his mind, and a very decent, funny man. Not a bad legacy, and he'll be missed by anybody who likes football. Today's prima donnas should take note.
 
My wife's family knew the Greaves family really well as they grew up, she doesn't really like football but I just let her know the sad news and she cried her eyes out, I'm doing the same as I write this.
Jimmy was the best striker ever to have worn the spurs shirt ,I'm am so sad.
 
So sad to hear this news, although expecting it. A true Legend of our Club and the game in general. I feel privileged that I saw him in a Spurs shirt in his last season. He would be one of the first names to make a Spurs First Eleven. He can now reform the legendary G-Men partnership with Gilly. Thank you for your service and legacy. Rest in peace Jimmy, you're free from your pain now. We will miss you :(
 
United fan here. I saw Jimmy play when he was in his pomp and he was phenomenal. I went to my first United v Spurs game in December 1963 in the old ECWC so I go back a long way. The Spurs game was a fixture we always looked forward to because it was always a great game with lots of goals and the giants of the game on the pitch. When you've got the likes of Charlton, Best, Law, Greaves, Gilzean, and Venables playing, there was always magic in the air.

I hope I speak for all United fans in wishing Jimmy well. He was one of England's finest players and was a credit to his country and his great club. Get well soon old lad.
 
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I remember crying when he left. I may shed a tear today, when the inevitable tributes are paid to him prior to kick off. Its right it should be today, against his only other club.
WHU don't count.
 
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