Not sure getting the club relegated is ‘doing a good job for ENIC’
They should just bin him off now.
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Not sure getting the club relegated is ‘doing a good job for ENIC’
They should just bin him off now.
Have you seen the league position or our injury list? He's clearly not doing a good job. A good job in the eyes of ENIC would be those financials plus a reliable top 7 finish.
I just don't know. Clearly he's a talented dof but - it's proven at a smaller club
I have no idea if he can scale up to the demands of a club like ours
Wage structure lowered & fan expectations in the mud . He’s doing Gods work in their eyes
I said to a mate not too long ago; we have to reevaluate who we are, even if it's just in the short term but be aware that it could well be longer than that. To be honest, I don't have a clue because so far the powers that be have, again, failed.
Can dig out Lange all you want ( he's a cunt have at it)the amount of people who did not understand that what Lookman did years five ago was irrelevant. I kept saying just go get Lookman and Hackney or a another play maker to balance out the mess. He's currently plug in and play better than Tel Odobert or Richarlison wide left. Eventually I just concluded people didn't understand how broken we were. They kept thinking we were too big for Lookman to improve. Its bizzare from people who supposedly watched us play football ever week.
Fact is, Stevie Wonder could see that we needed reinforcements, especially in the attacking third. Even a couple of sneaky loans would have done the trick (Lookman was such an easy deal and a no-brainer) and seen us up the table to the steady heights of 14th. Absolutely criminal that this cunt dismissed it as 'panic buying'. Utter, utter incompetence and, for me, willful negligence of the highest order.
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Fans wanted Levy out, and it transpired he might have been the only capable one in the boardroom.
ENIC sacking themselves is the most popular move they could make.
Could not agree more .
Given the situation with Maddison and Kulu especially .
Panicking is a relative term ; if your suddenly television bursts into flames it’s a normal first reaction to panic and very quickly thereafter DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT .
I hear what you are saying, of course. But then why has he not been dismissed at any point over the past few years ?
Incriminating photgraphs ?
Good question. I suppose he could've been given the benefit of the doubt until January and our plummet. He probably does a mean PowerPoint on the future sell on values of Souza and Gray.
What happened to the good old days where the manager who is normally someone who has played professional football identifies players. Instead we now non entities who are not football people given top jobs in football ops. What does Lange know about the qualities of a prof footballer. We prbly can identify a player better than him.
I say you give the coach or manager and his team the roles of identifying players and then let the accountants sort the rest.
Football is a data game now, sadly. Football has moved past that. Managers should sign off and give you an idea of what they want, but it's not just a case of watching a few players and using your gut.
We just pick the worst of the worst in that field, because the best aren't going to come here to play moneyball. Could've had Campos, got Paratici. Mitchell wanted better quality, was told to fuck off. Under Jose, we just signed whatever shite Mendes wanted moved. We now have a failed data scout at Villa, running the circus. It's very obvious why we're such a mess.
Lange should fuck right off and I hope every pie he ever eats burns the roof o his mouth
But if it’s a data-game , as you say and I’m necessarily disagreeing; WHY pay this man so much for simply overseeing the process. There are machines and / or 15 year-old kids in their bedrooms who can do that .
It’s a genuine question btw .
Hmm I think the best approach is somewhere in-between.
Lange is a cautionary tale of when you let a non-football bloke build a team. He signs loads of kids with good data who might be brilliant in 4-5 years but don't fix the immediate problems the squad needs and leave you in a total mess. In isolation some of his signings might look amazing individually in a few years, but our squad basically doesn't function cos it's been so poorly put together.
I think the idea that we should just go back to 'let the manager do it' is a bit backward, though. Look at clubs like Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth - you think any manager would have time to scout and do deep dives on all the random players they sign (which are basically the reason behind their success).
The modern approach can definitely work, but you need to do it in conjunction with proper football minds who understand squad building, team dynamics, etc. Going fully old school or solely looking at the data are just as bad as each other in different ways imo.
Liverpool's recent success was basically because they did really smart data-based recruitment but also worked collaboratively with Klopp and did things as a collective unit. That's the way you want to do it imo. Klopp didn't want Salah but was persuaded into it by the data nerds. Lucky they didn't just go with the manager on that one...
I bet he does most of his scouting on Football Manager.
Preaching to the choir my dude. I hate the way it's going. This guy is a fucking grifter.