Loved him
Great choice
Truly inspirational
If he had a bit of pace he would have been superb defender
Great attitude
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Manager Jose Mourinho
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Loved him
Great choice
Truly inspirational
If he had a bit of pace he would have been superb defender
Great attitude
I would imagine that he’s doing that and maybe drastic changes this Summer
We need it badly
Jose is on joke money and Levy is tight so get used to it
He may very well be right but these sort of comments mark the beginning of the end for Jose in my opinion. It seems like his cycle is coming to a close much quicker this time round, this is how he sounded at the start of his 3rd season at UTD.
Hopefully we cut our losses quickly and don’t let this drag on.
100% right we have been weak for the best part of 20 years apart from a couple of seasons under Poch.
There is something very wrong in the make up of a vast number of our squad.
When things go against us we fold like a pack of cards we are weak and fragile.
Liverpool lose the champions league final and then go from strength to strength.
We lose the champions league final and then for the next 12 months feel sorry for ourselves and crumble.
The 5-1 defeat at Newcastle a few seasons back being one of the most gutless performances I have ever seen in all my time following Spurs (40 years +)
Jose basically saying the team arent mentally strong enough.
Is he wrong?
I think yes. But only because id change "team" to "club". The perennial underachievers. CL Final being a great example. Bad luck / horrific decision and we feel sorry for ourselves. Imploded at Stamford Bridge when 2-0 up. Poch did absolute wonders getting them to believe but the magic started wearing off and the club werent willing to back him when it needed refreshing. To expect ANY new manager to come in and get it back is unrealistic.
To blame the current state of affairs on Jose I think is shortsighted to say the least
Is he wrong?
I think yes. But only because id change "team" to "club". The perennial underachievers. CL Final being a great example. Bad luck / horrific decision and we feel sorry for ourselves. Imploded at Stamford Bridge when 2-0 up. Poch did absolute wonders getting them to believe but the magic started wearing off and the club werent willing to back him when it needed refreshing. To expect ANY new manager to come in and get it back is unrealistic.
To blame the current state of affairs on Jose I think is shortsighted to say the least
We aren't mentally weak. You simply don't get to a CL final if that's the case, you don't deservedly knock out the favourites or teams that are better than you, bigger than you.
Jose's comments tonight are no different than those uttered by Sherwood after Chelsea pumped us 4-0 or whatever it was. It's what shit managers say when they have nothing else to offer on the game tactically. It's what they say when they deflect the blame from themselves.
The manager is responsible for every result, win, lose or draw. If there's lack of motivation then that's his fault, this is his and only his responsibility.
I feel like he thinks by saying this sort of stuff in public the players will react in a way to try and prove him wrong and show that they aren't mentally weak etc - but that never works and I don't think in football it ever will.
But this'll go two ways.
We'll either beat Everton in a scrappy win and Mourinho will come out and say the win showed we are building the steps to a stronger mentality because you had to be mentally tough to lose to Sheff Utd and then come and beat a side like Everton or some bollocks.
Or we lose to Everton.... and he throws subtle jabs somewhere else.
Pochettino himself said we were mentally weak earlier in the season.
And he got fired. His responsibility.
What about when Poch was still here up until losing his job this same group of players hung him out to dry.
They are a squad of gutless wankers
Well that's a pretty major caveat to your post isn't it..... (Especially as no teams get an overhaul in January.)
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What im trying to say is that is a squad game. So are you saying if this line up plays we win tonight? The lineup that lost 3-0?
(I missed the fact Eriksen is no longer here, so whoops on that one, but the rest are)
I just dont see ANY manager getting a tune out of the current playing staff and blaming the current manager working with the same set of tools doesnt seem to make a lot of sense
(I missed the fact Eriksen is no longer here, so whoops on that one, but the rest are)
I just dont see ANY manager getting a tune out of the current playing staff and blaming the current manager working with the same set of tools doesnt seem to make a lot of sense
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Mourinho is shite, but it's not only his fault if we are in this mess. A major issue is who appointed this prick to be our manager. For years I've been agains Levy leaving the club, by now I changed my mind after all the bad decicions he's taken over the last few years. For me his credit is gone, despite he's done an amazing job with the club. But we stagnated, even regressed in the last 3 years.
The role model for a club like us should be something like Dortmund, but Levy avoid this by not backing up the mangers to buy the players they want and refuse to sell the players to fund new signings. You could argue, and I agree, that Poch has done pretty shite signings, but Levy is also a probelm in hadling the transfers.
We take so much to sell players unwante and also our most valuable players cause Levy refuses deals for some pannies. That also implicate in the dynamic of our signings (always the B o C plan) and probably for the managers it's almos unbearable to work with this kind of attitude.
But he's only one of the problems, Poch was very stubborn and his decision making was unbeliveable bad. He was a very good manager, when he worked with the players he inherited from the past, basicly (from AVB/Sherwood era and Soton). When he started to choose his own players, fired Baldini, then Paul Mitchel, we only regressed as clearly he doesn't have and eye for a player.
Also, our scout team seem really poor and the only young player with some relative sucecess we bouth I remember was Dele. It seems we are always late on the process of identify talent.
Also, this all end in we have a lot of player with attitude problems. Mourinho is a cunt and will always blame others for his failure, but is clear we have a very big problem related to how our players react to a game dynamic. They seem they didn't even bother losing a game, that's pretty clear, and this kind of attitude probably contaminates our better players that can's figure out why are they playing with these kind of clowns.
By now I think a total rebuild is needed, and if Levy won't have the guts to do this he should go too. Replace the manager, scouts, coaches and great part of the players is the only way, if we stick to this crew we wont improve any soon.
The role model for a club like us should be something like Dortmund, but Levy avoid this by not backing up the mangers to buy the players they want and refuse to sell the players to fund new signings. You could argue, and I agree, that Poch has done pretty shite signings, but Levy is also a probelm in hadling the transfers.
We take so much to sell players unwante and also our most valuable players cause Levy refuses deals for some pannies. That also implicate in the dynamic of our signings (always the B o C plan) and probably for the managers it's almos unbearable to work with this kind of attitude.
But he's only one of the problems, Poch was very stubborn and his decision making was unbeliveable bad. He was a very good manager, when he worked with the players he inherited from the past, basicly (from AVB/Sherwood era and Soton). When he started to choose his own players, fired Baldini, then Paul Mitchel, we only regressed as clearly he doesn't have and eye for a player.
Also, our scout team seem really poor and the only young player with some relative sucecess we bouth I remember was Dele. It seems we are always late on the process of identify talent.
Also, this all end in we have a lot of player with attitude problems. Mourinho is a cunt and will always blame others for his failure, but is clear we have a very big problem related to how our players react to a game dynamic. They seem they didn't even bother losing a game, that's pretty clear, and this kind of attitude probably contaminates our better players that can's figure out why are they playing with these kind of clowns.
By now I think a total rebuild is needed, and if Levy won't have the guts to do this he should go too. Replace the manager, scouts, coaches and great part of the players is the only way, if we stick to this crew we wont improve any soon.
I agree and I see a couple of scrappy wins dragging this all out well in to next season.
But hey at least he had no Ndombele option to throw under the bus in his post match today.
Very good choice not the greatest centre half we have ever had but would still probably be as effective as any of our current centre halves and he was finished at the top level 3 seasons ago.
His effort and commitment could never be questioned sadly we can't say the same about our current back 4
Same group of players who also challenged for 3 PL's and a CL. Same group of players who have been the best Spurs players I've watched in my 45yrs watching Spurs paly.
Pep's Bayern & Klopp's Dortmund also failed to respond to their management in their final months. It happens when the coach is ultra intensive and the groups largely stays the same. The message is the same, the work intensity is the same. We didn't get a look at Poch behind closed doors but I've seen some footage of Klopp, Pep, Bielsa training sessions and they are brutal physically plus you've got the coach (and his assistants) in your face screaming at you one minute and the next all turning smiles and an arm around you.
He didn't say the players wouldn't be motivated. He was asked about the motivation for the remaining games (objetive being 7th place instead of CL spot). And he said that, if the players were not motivated, they'd be in trouble.
I think there is a bit of confusion because he also said before, about the game today, that the team wasn't mentally strong after the disallowed goal.
I think there is a bit of confusion because he also said before, about the game today, that the team wasn't mentally strong after the disallowed goal.
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So with that in mind, what does a club do when the players stop responding to that style of coaching? How do you keep the good times rolling and the same identity?
No. Are you saying that Sheff. Utd have a better squad than us(*)? ...And similarly that Brighton do?
(*They had 3 first teamers missing according to the comms, btw..)