Not the first time he has done something like this. He got Chelsea 10th then Conte won the league with them the following season.
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Manager Jose Mourinho
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Not the first time he has done something like this. He got Chelsea 10th then Conte won the league with them the following season.
No, he had them in 16th week before Xmas when he was tin-tacked with 15 points (4 wins 3 draws 9 losses) from 16 matches.
Hiddink took over and got them up to 10th with Conte taking over the following season.
The stat banded around that this is the first time Mourinho has lost 10 League games in a season is purely because other clubs acted earlier in the season before he got to the 10th loss. The way he was going that Chelsea season he would have gone on to lose 21 games.
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Yes, there was a mutiny wasn't there?
Bit more detail than me. Point is he has form in taking players and making them look a lot shitter than they are.
At United Shaw was seen as a donkey, he is currently arguably the best left back in the prem. the gaslighting of fans over their squads is one of the worst aspects of Jose’s tenure
Forces out Erikson, ends up losing Kane? My dissatisfaction with Mourinho has reached an all-time high.
Oh without a doubt.
The players you could name that he has managed that wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire, could have won everything if they were in a team together.
Yep.
Jose wasn't brought in for Levy to spend money. The players had downed tools for Poch and Jose was brought in to get a tune out of the current crop rather than conduct a painful and expensive rebuild.
Jose and his slimey agent mates aren't the ones for a rebuild.
I used to feel that Spurs fans didn't have the stomach for a rebuild. But IMO anybody coming in will get a LOT of leeway for simply not being Jose. It'll be interesting to see what happens with season tickets in the upcoming week or so.
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That’s cheered me up. We’re going to win the league under Scott Parker next season?
Well the inevitable Fellaini rumours are going again. That's the last fucking thing we need
Anyone realistically think we get more than 7 points in our remaining games if Jose is still here?
Too many Daily Mirror/Sun readers get brainwashed by red top papers who are AGAINST Tottenham. If you lose Mourinho in his first full season in charge (with none of his players bought) you go back to square one which is what your enemies want.
The media scorned Mourinho when he joined Spurs and wanted him to fail while Woolwich hired rookie Arteta and had no such criticism. Arteta has flopped even with MASSIVE SKY support to force referees to give all their dives and David Luiz headbutting Jimenez deliberately not condemned, but when McTomaney does hit Son in the face clearly it's derided as a bad call on Sky (Woolwich TV).
The Spurs fans on here have a go at their own team and their own manager rather than Sky or the FA or media. These Spurs fans are the worse fans any club could want.
They are spoilt brats feeling entitled and have no loyalty or even half a brain to see the big picture. I wish they would go support Crystal Palace and complain about them because they drag Tottenham down when they should be looking at other factors.
Oh, Mourinho isn't perfect either. He left out Alderweireld for no good reason. Lloris was poor on two goals also. José said they all gave 100%, I think Lloris gave about 25% (as usual).
The media scorned Mourinho when he joined Spurs and wanted him to fail while Woolwich hired rookie Arteta and had no such criticism. Arteta has flopped even with MASSIVE SKY support to force referees to give all their dives and David Luiz headbutting Jimenez deliberately not condemned, but when McTomaney does hit Son in the face clearly it's derided as a bad call on Sky (Woolwich TV).
The Spurs fans on here have a go at their own team and their own manager rather than Sky or the FA or media. These Spurs fans are the worse fans any club could want.
They are spoilt brats feeling entitled and have no loyalty or even half a brain to see the big picture. I wish they would go support Crystal Palace and complain about them because they drag Tottenham down when they should be looking at other factors.
Oh, Mourinho isn't perfect either. He left out Alderweireld for no good reason. Lloris was poor on two goals also. José said they all gave 100%, I think Lloris gave about 25% (as usual).
You already hit the record for most dislikes with that earlier post today... no need to break your own records.
I don't care if a lot of gooners are pretending to be Spurs fans on a Spurs forum (well I do but I hate it). I saw the same thing years ago when Newcastle were the best team in the PL and every team played out of their socks to beat them. Do you remember Fergie saying, " I wonder if (Forest) would be motivated to play hard after a testimonial with Newcastle" to which Keegan exploded in that famous rant.
But the point was, Fergie had every team motivated to play like a cup final against Newcastle. I feel the same is true with Spurs now.
Spurs have barely any refereeing protection. Every other team in the EPL dives and get lots of free kicks/pens. Spurs do not dive and if they do they get booked for diving.
Then people like YOU say, " Yeah he should be booked for that" totally not supporting your team. But you are watching the match on Woolwich TV who tell you what to think. So when Lacazete dives and screams YOU condemn the Spurs player not the gooner faking a foul. You don't mind Mason Mount tripping himself up to get a free kick. I would have Dele Alli in England well before this wannabe-Beckham.
It's ok to be angry about the result and expect more. Just realise the deck if heavily stacked against Spurs and the media have been against him right from the start (Oliver Holt said so before day one).
But don't fall into the media trap and try to use your own mind not somebody else's especially's Sky's. I heard about the Utd disallowed goal and they all said, "we might as well all give up". But I saw it and McTomaney definitely slaps Son in the face. Ref watches it and the ref gets it right but Woolwich TV go mad.
If more Spurs fans complained about the unfairness in the system Spurs would get better refereeing and not have a cup final from every Tom-Dick-And-Harry team knowing they can get away with murder against Tottenham.
Oh Utd had 5 players booked today and should have had a red card. What did they do when they played Woolwich???
Just imagine hearing something like this from our manager. Humility goes a long way with the fanbase and your players.
I was disappointed with the gaffer today. The substitutions were poor and the lads gave up right after Fred's goal.
2020-2021 Season
Points lost from opposition goals in the last 20 minutes: 14
Newcastle Home 90+7' (2 points dropped)
West Ham Home 82', 85', 90+4' (2 points dropped)
Crystal Palace Away 81' (2 points dropped)
Liverpool Away 90' (1 point dropped)
Wolves Away 86' (2 points dropped)
Fulham Home 74' (2 points dropped)
Newcastle Away 86' (2 points dropped)
Manchester United Home 79' (1 point dropped)
Points gained from losing positions: 6
Southampton Away (3 points gained)
Manchester United Away (3 points gained)
Which means we've saved zero points from a losing position since October 4th.
The story above points to a severe flaw in nature of the team. A large part of football success comes down to holding leads when ahead late and figuring out how to get back in it when behind. Either this team doesn't believe they can see out a result near the end of a close game or they are constantly being put in positions to concede late goals. Either they don't believe they can come back once they are behind or there is no plan B on how to get back in a game. Either there is a serious confidence issue within the squad or there is a deficiency in tactics. Or more likely, a combination of the two.
These are both areas that fall under the managers domain. He isn't setting them up to succeed on the field between the ears or on the tactics board. Its a spectacular failure in management.
Is it fair to compare this team to the 2016-2017 squad that was firing on all cylinders? Probably not but lets do it anyway.
2016-2017 Season
Points lost from opposition goals in the last 20 minutes: 0
Points gained from losing positions: 17
Everton Away (1 point gained)
Liverpool Home (1 point gained)
West Brom Away (1 point gained)
Scum Away (1 point gained)
West Ham Home (3 points gained)
Burnley Home (3 points gained)
Southampton Away (3 points gained)
Manchester City Away (1 point gained)
Swansea Away (3 points gained)
Its a simple story. Bread is bread and cheese is cheese.
Points lost from opposition goals in the last 20 minutes: 14
Newcastle Home 90+7' (2 points dropped)
West Ham Home 82', 85', 90+4' (2 points dropped)
Crystal Palace Away 81' (2 points dropped)
Liverpool Away 90' (1 point dropped)
Wolves Away 86' (2 points dropped)
Fulham Home 74' (2 points dropped)
Newcastle Away 86' (2 points dropped)
Manchester United Home 79' (1 point dropped)
Points gained from losing positions: 6
Southampton Away (3 points gained)
Manchester United Away (3 points gained)
Which means we've saved zero points from a losing position since October 4th.
The story above points to a severe flaw in nature of the team. A large part of football success comes down to holding leads when ahead late and figuring out how to get back in it when behind. Either this team doesn't believe they can see out a result near the end of a close game or they are constantly being put in positions to concede late goals. Either they don't believe they can come back once they are behind or there is no plan B on how to get back in a game. Either there is a serious confidence issue within the squad or there is a deficiency in tactics. Or more likely, a combination of the two.
These are both areas that fall under the managers domain. He isn't setting them up to succeed on the field between the ears or on the tactics board. Its a spectacular failure in management.
Is it fair to compare this team to the 2016-2017 squad that was firing on all cylinders? Probably not but lets do it anyway.
2016-2017 Season
Points lost from opposition goals in the last 20 minutes: 0
Points gained from losing positions: 17
Everton Away (1 point gained)
Liverpool Home (1 point gained)
West Brom Away (1 point gained)
Scum Away (1 point gained)
West Ham Home (3 points gained)
Burnley Home (3 points gained)
Southampton Away (3 points gained)
Manchester City Away (1 point gained)
Swansea Away (3 points gained)
Its a simple story. Bread is bread and cheese is cheese.
I don't know and I'm afraid to check the bookies tomorrow.
We have mid table defenders.