Kane and Son

[Deleted member 15314]

So is he good or shit at defensive play? Make your mind up

He's good at defensive headers, that does not mean he was defensively good against Brentford.

 

[Pól]

He's good at defensive headers, that does not mean he was defensively good against Brentford.

Even though he cleared one off the line. Ok.

He’s not on the pitch to defend anyway.

 

[Murphy]

Mate people dont want to hear it about Hojbjerg, it's about as popular as Kurt Zuma. There is a Two and a bit year corollary between our lack of control in midfield and poor retention and breaking down oponents...its not all on Harry Winks.

Someone told me after the game on here that Hoijberg had more touches than any other player and therefore he was good and better than anyone else on the pitch.

I mean, the cunt passes the ball the second he gets it with no real thought. He will pass pass to someone then tell them where it should go....

 

[peter merison]

So basically this thread should be renamed 'Kane, Son and Own Goals'.. and we should also be blaming Own Goals for his no show the past 2 games : )

No player scores in every game.

 

[Notabadsquad]

It's a bit of both in response to the opening post.

As a team we need to maximise what Kane and Son give us but equally both need to be the difference-makers.

But whilst people run to their defence, never have either taken us over the line in key games, whicg was also the case ehen we did have a much stronger and more able midfield.

Our remaining games are critical and key. Neither will step up.

Neither is going to find that magic touch would be my observation.

 

[Deleted member 15314]

They've got great link up but both are so useless defensively, both terrible when it comes to physicality, ball retention, dribbling.

Son is, and has always been a limited and streaky player. Kane is the really pissing me off.

 

[StripiestPilot]

They've had the ball at times and done absolutely nothing with it. Kane can't trap a bag of cement right now and son just 1 touch passes all the time. I'll give you at times the service is lacking but on the ball They've been utterly ineffective.

Of course they can do better, especially Kane who has not adjusted at all to the (surely not surprising) tactic of opponents not allowing him to turn on the ball. But they have carried us all season and you cannot expect them to play well and win us the matches every single time. Who is stepping up and demanding the ball when they see our match winners struggling? Only Hojbjerg is trying to make things happen.

 

[tommyboyspurs]

same for the finals too but not jsut down to them its a poor mentality at this club thats festered over 20 yrs

there is no winning mentality in this side

 

[Luvf]

It's daft to blame them when they hardly ever got the ball in dangerous areas in the last two games. As a team we have failed to react to opponents who sit deep and suffocate the space. We move the ball slowly, we don't play risky passes, we don't commit extra players to attack, etc. This is where other players have to step up.

If Kane, Deki and Son are being smothered by the opponent then someone else needs to do something. Kane often had 3 players on him yesterday but did a team-mate take advantage of that and take responsibility himself? No. As a team we defer to them even when they are not in the game, which is not right. We need to demand goals and assists from more than just those three players. Sometimes you need to nick a goal from a corner, a direct free kick, a long shot, a cheap penalty, something different. That's what I see Liverpool, City and Chelsea do.

The reality is that as on overall team we have major gaps in our ability to score. We can score on the counter-attack and that's pretty much it. If the opponent sits deep and doesn't make a mistake we cannot score. We've seen it against Burnley, Brentford and Brighton. We saw it against Watford to except that time Davinson scored in the last second from a corner. We don't have enough moments like that.

Kane often had 3 players on him yesterday but did a team-mate take advantage of that and take responsibility himself?

Kane was surrounded at times because either he was slow getting rid of the ball or they were too quick. Kane also lost many possessions just by one defender. But like you said and I would agree this is a team sport in a untra competitive league and every player in their positions need to pull their weight and needs to do every little things to make the difference and try crack the opponents anyway we could but that is not wha5s happening in our team particularly in the two positions in wingbacks.

So in a way it's like we are on two red cards when attacking lol. We are even narrower when they park it because of the severe lack of quality on both ends and so on.

That's what I see and could tell you without micro analyzing the game of which is not what I am here for. Anyway I think we still have a chance. I don't understand why the goons keep winning but they could easily lose the next game which is Westham?

 

[Deleted member 15314]

Kane literally cleared a shot off the line yesterday you melter.

And he always defends corners well for us too.

Oh wow he cleared the line once in a set piece scramble. Defender of the year material. Where was he rest of the game?

You don't need to point out his defensive headers to me, I've brought that up countless times myself.

 

[Pól]

Oh wow he cleared the line once in a set piece scramble. Defender of the year material. Where was he rest of the game?

You don't need to point out his defensive headers to me, I've brought that up countless times myself.

So is he good or shit at defensive play? Make your mind up

 

[Shadydan]

What a thread

 

[KaneDomBadBoy]

Check the agrees.
Yep, same motley crew.
63 goal involvements for Son and Kane this season.
All time EPL best combo.

How many of those goal involvements have come in critical/pressurized games or moments when there’s a lot on the line?

 

[BriPelli]

That is Son on the bottom left corner during the Asian Games. He turns his back and covers his eyes while making his teammate take the penalty to win them the match. This is who he is.

 

[Ulrikacoglou]

I read threads like this and realise some people have the backbone of a jellyfish.

 

[1882]

That is Son on the bottom left corner during the Asian Games. He turns his back and covers his eyes while making his teammate take the penalty to win them the match. This is who he is.

How do you know he 'made him'...? Maybe their #9 is like, y'know, their Striker?
How do we not know he didn't snatch the ball off Sonny to get the glory all for himself...? Greedy bastard!


...anyway, only cane on here to say the title of this thread sounds more like a family run firm of Solicitors!

...or a Funeral Parlour!!

 

[ShutUpPatrik]

The state of some of the doom and gloom on here.

 

[Dudski]

How do you know he 'made him'...? Maybe their #9 is like, y'know, their Striker?
How do we not know he didn't snatch the ball off Sonny to get the glory all for himself...? Greedy bastard!


...anyway, only cane on here to say the title of this thread sounds more like a family run firm of Solicitors!

...or a Funeral Parlour!!

I'm American and now that I've seen this thread title I've got the theme song from Sanford and Son stuck in my mind. I think that was a remake of an English series (Steptoe and Son?).

 

[Nikesh]

I think it's the lack of creativity in the midfield we should be digging out, not the forwards. Our midfield is shite,

I actually agree with you here. I think I have a nose bleed coming

 

[OffTheBench]

Yeah, blame our two best players for everything.

No, the problem is a dearth of quality in the wingback and and CM positions. Sometimes the counter attacking Conte ball works well, but too often it gets nullified and we're left relying on Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Emerson Royal and Sessegnon for creativity. And the results are obvious.

I'd abandon 3-4-3 completely until we have 4 wing backs of Premier League standard. Right now we have arguably 1 or 2.