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Ex-Spurs Player Kyle Walker

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Totti said:
You realise home grown means that irrespective of his nationality or age, he has been registered with an English club for three entire seasons prior to his 21st birthday. Not that he's a product of our youth academy.

Same reason why the likes of Fabregas, Clichy, Josh King, Coquelin, Begovic etc all counted as home grown.
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I take that, but when we have truly home grown players now i.e. Winks, Kane etc. I think that it makes a slight mockery of the phrase / definition. But I do take your point.:walker:
 
Cherrymoon said:
I'm dissapointed to lose Walker, particularly to a rival. But realistically, Man City are not a rival. What I mean by that is that financially they are on another planet to us. I've seen a lot of people talk about us strengthening a rival, but they were always going to sign a strong right-back this summer. Walker or no Walker.

At the same time, there were rumours back as far as March that Pochettino and Walker had a disagreement over his fitness and then there were rumours that Walker was not happy that Poch was picking Trippier for all the big matches.

So you have a situation where the manager has lost faith in the player, Walker isn't particularly happy at playing second fiddle and then you have a situation where a right-backless desperate financial giant are in for a player we can sell for a huge sum and still have who has been our go-to starting right-back for big fixtures since the early part of 2017 as well as a young player who this summer became a world-cup winner at u20 level.

Everything about this transfer makes sense, removing all emotions aside. We get a record fee for a defender, who isn't a vital part of the manager's plans. Pochettino gets backed in his decisions and stances. We make room in the squad for a promising youngster and have £55m in the bank in the bargain.

I also personally think that Trippier has improved. He is tactically and situationally better than Walker, his crossing and passing is better. Walker is faster. But at 27 and having been playing footballsince he was 18, I think its the right time to sell. He has improved under Poch, but I don't think that's down to his own application and attitude, I think that's down to Pochettino's tactics where Dier or Wanyama drop to create a 3 in a 4-2-3-1 when in possession and attacking, or where we simply play 3 at the back. It means Walker's tactical, positional and brain-fart inadequacies aren't as frequently exposed as in previous regimes.

He has been a good servant and good player, but by no means perfect, a fact bourne out by the fact that Clyne has often been picked for England ahead of him and previously Glen Johnson. The money and Poch seemingly preferring Trippier means its a no-brainer.
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time to sell Walker becuase he's 27 and played football since he was 18, yet Trippier is 27 in 2 month and started at Man City at 17.
They are virtually the same age. Kyle Walker is 4 months older.
The only reason we are selling is because Kyle disagreed with the fitness coaches and was upset at rotation. Not becuase he's done and it's time to sell.
 
Load of old bollocks people making up stories about unsettled and rotation etc etc. The reality is much more likely that Walker fancied a change of pace in his senior years after 9 years at Spurs and thinks he can genuinely win something at City and at the same time double his wages.

Poch probably knew about this having spoken to him and decided to play more of Trippier at the end of last season to see how we got on. 50m is mad business and we will be weaker without him but it's not the end of the world, he is replaceable.
 
mouse said:
Well firstly, i'm not expecting all fans to be happy with it, its a shame to lose Walker and people can ultimately think what they want. Personally i would rather have Toby in the team for the next four years than Walker.

You say why not have both? Well again i say look at the numbers; if you can squeeze any more out of them then you're a better bean counter than Mr Levy.

Financial results, year end 30 June 2016 29 March 2017 - News - tottenhamhotspur.com

Spurs published a EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Depreciation and Amortisation) figure of £63m in 2016 Thats money available to reinvest (essentially "profit"). This generated from a revenue of £209m that includes net profit from player transfers, commercial revenue and TV money.

So £63m to reinvest in the running of the club. Including renewing player contracts and new player / staff acquisitions. Suddenly it doesn't seem like an overflowing cup.

Add to that the continuing cost of constructing the biggest engineering product occurring in Europe at the moment which due to Brexit and other factors has now doubled from the £400m originally quoted to £800m

Tottenham reveal cost of new stadium has risen to £800m due to Brexit

Levy has already stated that he doesn't want the club to be hampered by huge amounts of borrowing to complete the stadium (as Woolwich did) so it's obvious that we will see a direct effect on the way we operate in the transfer window.

There isn't some conspiracy, Levy isnt Mike Ashley or Randy Lerner. Continually asset stripping the club for profit and doing the bare minimum (or failing to!) required to keep the club in the league.

It could be much, much worse.
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You obviously know your onions and I respect that but what I can't respect is acceptance of only spending 20 million of the Walker money and using the other 30 million to pay another players contract , I don't know what Toby gets paid but I do know we were already paying him when Walker was with us and it's unlikely he wants a raise of 150k a week , I'm probably not as good of a bean counter as Levy but if I assume Toby wants 50k a week extra that equates to £10450000 defecit over 4 years unless I am mistaken that leaves 20 million left and in a world where Crystal Palace smashed their wage structure and had a net spend of over 50 million last summer , I think we can survive being a bit more adventurous than what you suggest.
 
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£50+ Million for him is a ridiculous piece of business by Levy. Sure, he is the better overall of our two right backs, but City gaining Walker does not guarantee them the league, and as much as we all adore him, he is vulnerable defensively. Also Rose is better than him, so it won't make any difference when we play them. ;)

Honestly, if you had to pick just one player from our strongest 11 to leave, who would come up with anyone other than KW?
 
Alli-Luya said:
Who on earth is that and why should we believe what he's saying?
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Why should we believe anyone, it seems odd that a player on a 4.5 year deal we are so pushy to get rid of. Who knows but the players and Poch what happened, there where stories months ago about problems although that was mentioned as between Poch and Walker and Poch wanting Walker out.

Sure in time everything will get told.
 
Tomo said:
Some papers report £45 mil up front, 5 mil next year and about £3 mil add ons so around £53 mil.
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to be honest mate, i don't think anyone will know the actual final cost in reality, only Levy and the bloke from the oil riggers. that doesn't stop the media printing whatever they want though

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Murphy said:
£50+ Million for him is a ridiculous piece of business by Levy. Sure, he is the better overall of our two right backs, but City gaining Walker does not guarantee them the league, and as much as we all adore him, he is vulnerable defensively. Also Rose is better than him, so it won't make any difference when we play them. ;)

Honestly, if you had to pick just one player from our strongest 11 to leave, who would come up with anyone other than KW?
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That £50m will achieve very little in the grand scheme of things...

Regardless of if they win the league, your post is on extremely shakey ground if they beat us this season (bearing in mind we got 10/12 points from them over the last 2 seasons).... Hardly an un-fathomable likeyhood.
 
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