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it’s quite interesting that small clubs now like Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford and dare I say it Forest (who are not small but have been weak for such a long time) can quickly move past us. Before it was Liverpool or Woolwich zipping past when they went from being shit to good, now it’s everyone’s granny.
Classic case of "conservative"/"ego" business for lack of a better word.

Levy found a formula for decent success 10 or so years ago. And now refuses to adapt to the changing times.
 
We don't spend on wages so we're not attracting quality.
We could opt to push the wages boat out and would still not attract quality.

We fish in the same pond as Woolwich, Chelsea, Liverpool, United or City and we'll be the last dog at the bowl. That calibre of player aims to win trophies and won't pick a club that's won 3 in 34 years.

So if we can't attract that level of player why bother spending more on wages? Just end up like United with overpaid mid tier players that aren't good enough to get you to the top and on high wages become very hard to shift out.
 
Levy and co aren't going anywhere anytime soon. The club is no longer just a football club, it's now an entertainment business with a football team in the background.

It's a cash cow. The wage bill is incredibly low compared to the income. With the extra circular events such as NFL, rugby, concerts, F1 go karting and whatever else they can convince to come then the shareholders will be in no rush to sell up, unless there's a stupidly large offer, we're talking 3-4b easy.

They'll add a couple of signings each summer to keep fans semi excited, and a few youngsters to look forward to, but they'll never fully commit. It's always been a 'well we're doing well as we are' attitude, they never have and never will capitalise on a strong point like Forest are, and Woolwich will be doing.

This is who the club is now, we can protest all we want but they're never big enough. The ones fan groups try to organise have only a few hundred fans turn up, not the thousands needed. Fans will still turn up to the stadium, wearing replica shirts just bought in the club shop.. Even if fans decide not to go, tourists will lap those tickets up quickly and clap along regardless of the result, as long as they get to see Sonny or whoever they really support.

European places are no longer the be all for this ownership, just a place in the premier league, even though we'll be told by Ali Gold and others that due to non European competition we can't afford as much in the transfer windows.


It's similar to Mike Ashley at Newcastle now.. It'll only get worse.
Another great post.
The Mike Ashley comparison is becoming more and more relevant as time goes by. At least Ashley was always looking for a way out. And of course found one that benefitted the club hugely. (Who has the happier fan base now?)
Levy, on the other hand, seems happy to continue milking the cow and isn't even looking for an exit route.
It's a horrible situation. It really is.
 
It needs to be a full 90 minutes of anger towards Levy. Booing him, telling him to fuck off. It needs to be non stop.
Will Never Happen

As already mentioned , stadium is half full of day trippers there for the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium experience

Going to Spurs now is the same as going to the theatre or a shopping centre , there just happens to be a bit of football being played on a big green pitch to the side
 
Another great post.
The Mike Ashley comparison is becoming more and more relevant as time goes by. At least Ashley was always looking for a way out. And of course found one that benefitted the club hugely. (Who has the happier fan base now?)
Levy, on the other hand, seems happy to continue milking the cow and isn't even looking for an exit route.
It's a horrible situation. It really is.

Ashley got Newcastle relegated

Twice.
 
That has nothing to do with him being 'too comfortable' - he got addicted to a very addictive substance after getting injured.

Psychology not your thing ? Professional medical welfare ? There’s a lack of care .

Didn’t you say you worked in finance ? Let’s say your car is broken , I presume it’s a Lamborghini 😉 and it’s broken . Do you wait for it to repair itself ?

Comfort is not just putting your slippers on , it’s procrastination, it’s malingering , it’s turning a blind eye & that is precisely what this club does regarding football
 
Will Never Happen

As already mentioned , stadium is half full of day trippers there for the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium experience

Going to Spurs now is the same as going to the theatre or a shopping centre , there just happens to be a bit of football being played on a big green pitch to the side
Spot on.

There will always be a section of fans who are fully Spurs and give dogs abuse to Levy and co. But a large portion is now the tourists and day trippers. Exactly what the board want.
 
Ange is a sacrificial Lamb. Levy not wanting to spend this window shows he's already spoken to someone else. He won't buy anything and claim he didn't want to spend because the new manager has to come choose his players (never happens that way but he's a master at bullshiting).

Mark my Words. Ange is as good as gone
 
The new football money league is out. Spurs wages down to 42% of revenue.

So rather than allowing us to compete, we are actually less competitive in the new stadium.
But we're tearing up the Deloitte Football Money League, which gains Levy loads of backslapping from the Lewis family trust and all his mates like Simon Jordan and Claude from The Apprentice.

Which we all know is the real quiz.
 
Isn’t the stadium and training ground a long term plan? Investing in the very best facilities to get the very best from the players?

In any missive that arrives (COYS Daniel) he talks about the wish to compete at the very top.

He’s hired Munn (no idea about his credibility or ability, but none of us do) and Lange (seems to have a decent reputation in the game). Hired a manager who seemed to offer us the winning and attractive football we wanted (obviously hasn’t worked). But Levy does seem to be trying to do things differently. And spending money doing them.

What I’d like to see is underperforming players getting shifted quicker. And replacements coming in faster. I’d suggest those alone would affect the mindset of the players more. Play to your very best, or you’re gone.

I’d also like to see us offer someone like McKenna or Potter (too late now), £5m a year salary to manage our u21/youth teams to ensure we have a pipeline of younger talent coming through to either hit the first team or sell for PSR profit.

100% the stadium & training ground are long term plans but as Daniel admitted himself a few years ago , the eye was taken of the ball , the priorities of the football club . Being honest nothing has really changed since that statement . Was it another false statement or is he genuinely trying to, if so then he is clearly out of his depth .

The other points you make are from someone who understands football , understands planning is required . Personally I’d have been asking Ange why you are bringing in coaching staff that have failed before . Alarm bells would be going off. I’d have hired a guy who has unquestionable excellence in running a football club , I’m not sure Munn is that , he seems more like Clive Woodward
 
Psychology not your thing ? Professional medical welfare ? There’s a lack of care .

Didn’t you say you worked in finance ? Let’s say your car is broken , I presume it’s a Lamborghini 😉 and it’s broken . Do you wait for it to repair itself ?

Comfort is not just putting your slippers on , it’s procrastination, it’s malingering , it’s turning a blind eye & that is precisely what this club does regarding football

I worked in financial software and my brother-in-law is an opioid addict -

His (Alli's) addiction had nothing to do with being 'too comfortable' at spurs - Their duty of care towards him has nothing to do with HIM being too comfortable.

He didn't turn up to spurs and just decide fuck it this is the life, I'm just gonna chill and pop pills - that was your original incinuation.

"We’ve had plenty of talented players , Dele , Madders , Tanguy etc who see the clubs psyche & put their slippers on ."

Please don't patronise or gaslight me mate - he did neither of the things you said that i highlighted above.
 
Ange is a sacrificial Lamb. Levy not wanting to spend this window shows he's already spoken to someone else. He won't buy anything and claim he didn't want to spend because the new manager has to come choose his players (never happens that way but he's a master at bullshiting).

Mark my Words. Ange is as good as gone
Looking that way, the lack of support is damning
 
They won't spend anymore money (or any reasonable money) this month. They'll see players returning, the league season is all but over and the league cup is the only shining light, and after seeing Ange win the first leg with a decimated squad they'll think he can win with a nearly full squad.

They won't back a manager who will likely be gone this summer, and they won't back a caretaker manager who will be in the job for a matter of 3-4 months.

Likely be a Poch return in the summer or they'll try and get Iraola. However I fear our time at poaching managers of that level and better is over.
 
I worked in financial software and my brother-in-law is an opioid addict -

His (Alli's) addiction had nothing to do with being 'too comfortable' at spurs - Their duty of care towards him has nothing to do with HIM being too comfortable.

He didn't turn up to spurs and just decide fuck it this is the life, I'm just gonna chill and pop pills - that was your original incinuation.

"We’ve had plenty of talented players , Dele , Madders , Tanguy etc who see the clubs psyche & put their slippers on ."

Please don't patronise or gaslight me mate - he did neither of the things you said that i highlighted above.

It’s not just him being comfortable, it’s the whole set up

Please don’t assume what my original post was insinuating as I’ve already had to explain different definitions of comfort & you do see the words club psyche in there don’t you ?

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It’s not just him being comfortable, it’s the whole set up

Please don’t assume what my original post was insinuating as I’ve already had to explain different definitions of comfort & you do see the words club psyche in there don’t you ?

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You don't need to explain to me pop psychology about addiction and its relation to comfort - the two are not connected and using Alli as an example to push a narrative whilst twisting it so it can kinda fit into what you are saying is not right IMHO.
 
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