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Poch’s reign was the second best period of league form in our history. That wasn’t so long ago.

It has been a mess since late 2019 though. 3.5 years of poor decisions and poor results. That’s not so long given the 18 years of excellent performance before it.

Clearly even my patience is not infinite. It would be easier for me if people gave Levy full credit for the exceptional work done over 18 years. The shrill voices don’t help.

I couldn’t care about what other fans think. Why do you? They’ll always find something.
It also wasn’t so long ago when after working wonders and getting us into title races with a small budget Poch was rewarded with a self imposed transfer ban, the club has been on a downward spiral since 2017. That champions league run papered over a lot of cracks and this has been coming for a while.

The fuck ups, the lies and the incompetence of this board started long before 2019.
 
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Plenty of room to get worse. Kane is leaving in the next couple of years for one. They've still got to replace Son and Lloris as well.

All the players who have kept us up there in the top 6 are on the edge of decline or leaving.

I see so many fans say we should cash in on Kane and Son...and what? Trust Levy to replace them? He spent £50m on Dembele's replacement. He spent £50m on Eriksen's replacement. £30m on Rose's replacement. £60m on Kane's understudy/potential successor this season. Almost £200m on 4 players who have done nothing.

I would rather trust in Kane and Son for one more year than trust Levy to replace them.
 
Of course Levy takes responsibility for hiring Paratici.

Wait I’m confused… levy does or doesn’t have anything to do with the improved football performance we’ve seen since 2001?

If he does then you’ll give him credit.

If he doesn’t - then he doesn’t impact football performance?
I thought a diagram might be in order.
The overall shape of this gold price chart shows an uncanny resemblance to on field success since the 80s

Just wiggle the time domain a bit.
The peaks of the 80s, followed by the humdrum 90s, then steady improvement since 2001.
That big peak is 2019, and it's downhill since then.
Overall in better shape than 2001, but who wants to celebrate that in the middle of a downturn.
 
It also wasn’t so long ago when after working wonders and getting us into title races with a small budget Poch was rewarded with a self imposed transfer ban, the club has been on a downward spiral since 2017. That champions league run papered over a lot of cracks and this has been coming for a while.

The fuck ups, the lies and the incompetence of this board started long before 2019.
Yep. Absolute minimum the crap decisions started in the summer of 2018 with no transfers in or out despite the big rebuild plea. It could probably be traced back to the summer of 2016 and not signing top targets like Mane, Wijnaldum and Zaha. We still had a good side and momentum and that carried us through but it was falling apart by the champions league run in 2019 and hasnt improved since.

This is a long time in the making and whatever good you think they might have done from around 2004 to 2015 it is long gone. Everything has its day and ENICs has come and gone.
 
Not sure if posted, I know the cynics will say pointless, but what's pointless is just accepting 'this is as good as it gets' Apologies if posted already. I'd prefer Bahamas Joe piss off too but small steps...

 
I see so many fans say we should cash in on Kane and Son...and what? Trust Levy to replace them? He spent £50m on Dembele's replacement. He spent £50m on Eriksen's replacement. £30m on Rose's replacement. £60m on Kane's understudy/potential successor this season. Almost £200m on 4 players who have done nothing.

I would rather trust in Kane and Son for one more year than trust Levy to replace them.

Cashing in time is done anyway. Son's so out of form now we'd get barely anything. Kane's contract has ticked down to the point where MAYBE we'd get 70-80m for him but thats not a huge chunk of change in 2023.

And that 70/80m is if we want to sell to a big English rival. The likes of Bayern (if kane would even go there) would pay 40-50.
 
Plenty of room to get worse. Kane is leaving in the next couple of years for one. They've still got to replace Son and Lloris as well.

All the players who have kept us up there in the top 6 are on the edge of decline or leaving.
When we're out of the European places and Kane is signing for Newcastle on a free in July 2024, we'll miss today.

We're still running on the fumes of the Poch Miracle. Not for much longer.

Players leaving, bad results… all can be part of the recovery from here.

When I sat rock bottom I mean the shit show and lack of plan for the football team.
 
Poch’s reign was the second best period of league form in our history. That wasn’t so long ago.

It has been a mess since late 2019 though. 3.5 years of poor decisions and poor results. That’s not so long given the 18 years of excellent performance before it.

Clearly even my patience is not infinite. It would be easier for me if people gave Levy full credit for the exceptional work done over 18 years. The shrill voices don’t help.

I couldn’t care about what other fans think. Why do you? They’ll always find something.
I am sorry when was the 18 years of excellence? ............................The Poch era was good, as was Redknapp, you could argue that maybe Jol was ok. other than that it has dirge. Santini? Ramos? AVB ? Sherwood., the proposed Stratford move.
18 years of excellence, just not true. Also why are looking to ignore the last three and half years to evaluate his performance?
I will never understand the people like you and your need to defend Levy,
 
I am sorry when was the 18 years of excellence?
The period of ENIC-driven performance improvement for Spurs was from like 2004-2012. We were successfully de-Evertonized through rational squad investment during that period.

Then came a highly successful infrastructure campaign which has locked in some of those gains and made them sustainable over time.

But that campaign forced/induced a starvation of resources for the football operation, the Poch Miracle came at a weird and uncomfortable time, and as the dodgy wiring crisis hit in Summer 2018, ENIC irreparably destroyed the Pochettino project.

Five years since have just been an increasingly unhinged refusal to admit those mistakes, amid an environment of lots of competitors improving their relative financial/infrastructural position around us while Levy tilts at windmills.
 
Yep. Absolute minimum the crap decisions started in the summer of 2018 with no transfers in or out despite the big rebuild plea. It could probably be traced back to the summer of 2016 and not signing top targets like Mane, Wijnaldum and Zaha.
You could go further back than that. Freebie has-beens Saha and Nelson when Redknapp had us on the verge of a title challenge.
Even further? Ramos having his pants pulled down with the sale of Keane and Berbatov in the same window and given the booby prize of Frazer Campbell on loan. (remember 2 points from 8 games)
Levy is nothing but a fraud exploiting the name and history of our football club to further ENIC'S expansion into their other non football related activities
 
Nobody is interested in giving Levy a pat on the back when we're in the state we are now. He got plenty of them when we were good. Go look at the state of the thread made when he signed a few mediocre players for Jose. Plenty of Levy love from the past when fans could still stand the sight of him.

Now we're shit and fumbling from one disaster to the next, so no the fans don't fancy talking about how great Levy was.
They’re very interested in making ridiculous comments though AMIRIGHT
I thought a diagram might be in order.
The overall shape of this gold price chart shows an uncanny resemblance to on field success since the 80s

Just wiggle the time domain a bit.
The peaks of the 80s, followed by the humdrum 90s, then steady improvement since 2001.
That big peak is 2019, and it's downhill since then.
Overall in better shape than 2001, but who wants to celebrate that in the middle of a downturn.
billiant!
 
I am sorry when was the 18 years of excellence? ............................The Poch era was good, as was Redknapp, you could argue that maybe Jol was ok. other than that it has dirge. Santini? Ramos? AVB ? Sherwood., the proposed Stratford move.
18 years of excellence, just not true. Also why are looking to ignore the last three and half years to evaluate his performancer?
I will never understand the people like you and your need to defend Levy,
I’m defending the clubs record. The club’s league form under Poch was the second highest period of finishes in its history. It followed a period of sustained improvement that any organisation would be proud of.

Last three and a half years have been bad and I’ve said that clearly. If only ENIC haters would admit our excellent footballing progress over 18 years just as clearly. Instead theres denial and deflection
 
They’re very interested in making ridiculous comments though AMIRIGHT

billiant!

Because they're angry? Because we suck? And the owner is making a series of dangerous, dumb decisions which are costing the club whilst making us unwatchable? And spitting in the face of the fans by lying to us and releasing snooty replies to the fans where they act like nothing is wrong?

There's no goodwill towards Levy or ENIC from most of the fanbase. Apart from from their ever decreasing group of cheerleaders. That sense of optimism and progression disappeared a long time ago.
 
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