I understand the lack of Trophies argument as well but that hasn't stopped other teams like Newcastle, Bournemouth or Villa etc getting players.
I know Newcastle just won one which will make them more attractive.
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I know Newcastle just won one which will make them more attractive.
Exactly and with the hope of getting a top manager in he publically states that there will not be much money to spend. Clever man.
Wages are definitely hampering us.
Rewind 10-15 years were wages were more manageable, and we could swoop in for Rafa Van Der Vaart and give him an exit from Madrid. Or even Lucas from PSG for that matter. Now, salaries at the super clubs are so gigantic that we are automatically priced out because Levy refuses to even entertain them.
Picking up unwanted players from super clubs would be a good way for us to add some experienced players to bolster our developing youngsters. But that's not going to happen anymore. We're not going to be in for Grealish in the summer for example because Levy is just not going to be interested in picking up his salary.
Yeah but to play devil's advocate it's probably not a good idea to tell everyone you've got loads of money to spend if you do have it.
I personally think we will spend similar to the last couple of seasons although will probably recoup some with sales of Romero Biss/Bentancur etc
I didn't know where to post this thought, this is a good a place as any - did anyone else think that if we had celebrated a League Cup win to this extent, we would have been mocked endlessly over winning a 'Mickey Mouse' trophy?
Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to have gone to Wembley and paraded the Cup around North London - been far too long since we celebrated like that.
Good luck to Newcastle, I say, rather them than the scousers, who would have taken it for granted.
Which has a higher value if he generates higher income and reduces overheads . He is running the club in my view to maximise its sale value, so he is taking money out but on a deferred basis . I know this is technically what you are saying , but he is extracting a higher valuation now , as in today at the expense of the team . Whether he overvalues it and still doesn’t sell this year or next is irrelevant to me . The club is a revenue up so valuation up whilst based on an expenses down model, that is how I see it .
Oh we would definitely have been mocked for it a bit more than Newcastle.
Yes. Of course they would.
Then I’d remind them that when asked something along these lines, Rio Ferdinand said, “a trophy is a trophy…” even though Ferguson was still managing Manchester United at the time.
Wow! That's a great watch and a great listen. Some fantastic calls that really hit the nail well and truly on the head.
guyt2030
, thanks for sharing, bud.
Exactly.
Small time mentality polluting our fanbase.
One of the current Big 6
Formerly one of the Big 5
Record FA cup winners pre-ENIC
Proud European heritage
Massive fuck-off fanbase
London
9th richest club on planet earth
The list goes on and on
We used to attract the best players. The only reason we don't any more is Daniel Levy and ENIC
Maybe people don’t think they are wrong? I’m interested in other opinions, as in this case, I believed Levy when he said that the new stadium would lead us into a new era of success. Others didn’t believe that. What did they see that I didn’t? I’m interested to know.
I still believe Levy works like a bastard flor us. I still believe he wants the football team to be a trophy winning success. Others on here say he’s only interested in concerts and doesn’t prioritise for the football team. What are they seeing that I’m not? I’d like to know.
But, asking that on here, in the present circumstance of our on field performances is basically like standing at the end of a corridor, legs apart and asking everyone to take a nice long run up to hoofing me in the balls. I can’t be arsed. And the huge number of posts every day having pops at fans of the same fucking club we all support, beggars belief. There’s some Spurs fans being treated worse on here than Gooner interlopers. Place has become a fucking shitshow of keyboard cunts calling out fellow fans in a manner they’d never dare do in person. And decent fans and debaters, like yourself, aren’t helping matters by concentrating on this area either.
Anyway, I’m in danger of becoming a “let’s all just love one another” hippy, slo I’ll fuck off now. Appreciate the response man.
Yes we probably would have been. But so would clubs and rivals of similar size to us like Woolwich and Chelsea.
Newcastle are a smaller club with a locally concentrated fanbase who hadn't won a domestic trophy in most of their fans lifetime so the exaggerated euphoria is completely understandable
He could just have not said anything.
Still haven't seen it on the pitch and it's got worse at a football level literally since it opened.
I believe that too. But I also believe he doesn't want it bad enough to ever take a risk. I also believe being too successful isn't good for turnover as you have to spend to maintain it.
I also think at first he didn't prioritise the non-football events, but now he's seen how bankable the money is, he is pivoting towards that.
His latest comment where he said we had "use non football income to subsidise the football" is telling.
We were all led to believe that was the point of the non-football events, but now it seems like he's begrudging using it.
Yes. That is correct. That is what Chelsea's owners did. To put their money into the club they sold off the hotel and women's team to another group company. However Levy and ENIC would never put their cash in......they could always asset strip the club like this instead of course.
I can only speak for myself, but for me the biggest sign that Levy is not driven by ambition for on field success is the following .
Whenever we have been in a position to truly challenge he hunkers down and says that will do , we are thereabouts.
Firstly the disgraceful Jan window under Redknapp with the Nelsen and Saha freebies .
The Poch no signings for two windows.
The latest example the selling Kane situation . I don’t disagree with selling Kane , however I massively disagree with not replacing him for 12 months . This was just Berbatov 2.0 but without Fraser Campbell. He made the sales with total negligence on the replacement side , one can argue Berba forced his hand but he is too well rewarded to be unaware that Berbatov was gone mentally. You can’t be the highest paid CEO and keep fucking these things up .
Well that is my view on him . .
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The replacements for Kane were Brennan and Richarlison.
Levy also sacks managers before selling off the players that did well under those managers.
Jol, Redknapp and Poch all got this treatment.
ENIC, Levy and Ange have to go.
All of them without exception.
The mediocrity is now deteriorating into a farce under these clowns.
I still believe Levy works like a bastard flor us. I still believe he wants the football team to be a trophy winning success. Others on here say he’s only interested in concerts and doesn’t prioritise for the football team. What are they seeing that I’m not? I’d like to know.
