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Match Man Utd vs Tottenham Hotspur | Sunday 29 September | Old Trafford

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I want to see that performance at Stamford Bridge, Anfield, The Emirates etc.

I think players love going to Old Trafford these days. It’s a famous venue which players look forward to but the fear factor is no longer there…

The next step for Ange is to convince our players they can produce a performance like that at those other venues I’ve mentioned…
 
Just want to point one instance of the massive media bias against us:

ESPN FC covered the Utd-Spurs match Sunday and today, Monday. 52 minutes devoted to analyzing the match and what it means for Manchester United, and less than 5 minutes devoted to analyzing the play of Spurs, it's players, or what it means for Tottenham.

52 minutes vs 5. Fucking embarassing. ESPN FC ought to be ashamed of itself. Though I haven't run any numbers I unfortunately suspect the situation isn't much different elsewhere.
 
Maybe one reason they focus on utd for 52 mins is they can then fill their programmes with things like "who will be Utd new manager" "can he manager that big club" etc etc, all those media outlets need stuff to fill their programmes,
All these sports news channels have 24 hrs a day to fill, so any story is blown up to fill space
 
Just want to point one instance of the massive media bias against us:

ESPN FC covered the Utd-Spurs match Sunday and today, Monday. 52 minutes devoted to analyzing the match and what it means for Manchester United, and less than 5 minutes devoted to analyzing the play of Spurs, it's players, or what it means for Tottenham.

52 minutes vs 5. Fucking embarassing. ESPN FC ought to be ashamed of itself. Though I haven't run any numbers I unfortunately suspect the situation isn't much different elsewhere.

Why do folk constantly complain about this? :D

Utd are the biggest team in England, they're always going to be the talking point because they have the most fans and bait the most clicks, it's not anti Spurs, it's pro Utd = more engagement/interest/revenue.
 
Why do folk constantly complain about this? :D

Utd are the biggest team in England, they're always going to be the talking point because they have the most fans and bait the most clicks, it's not anti Spurs, it's pro Utd = more engagement/interest/revenue.
Because it's boring and is a disservice to any notion of 'journalism' not cynically born out of pure marketing/shareholder-value perspectives. Morons not understanding this situation take the attention given to be an implicit sign of importance and so in addition to being cynical "newszak" it also simultaneously contributes to a general dumbing-down of society.

Do you get personal satisfaction from defending the corporate media, or just in general by being a contrarian?
 
Might not be the thread for this, but this is a good video on the tactical rundown of the game:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06YSJzCdWQ

- on about 3.30 he mentions we made a tactical tweak, pushing our fullbacks up higher, and United's press couldn't adapt, as so:

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But what's strange to me is, we always do this? This isn't a tweak at all, I could find you a millions stills from our games under Ange ball and our set up is identical; fullbacks pushed high up alongside the #10s, and we're in a sort of 2-1-3-4 in build up, with absolutely massive spacing between the CBs and fullbacks.

The narrative of this bit in the video is that United couldn't adjust to our "tactical tweak" with the high fullbacks, and as a result their press was all disjointed. But to me it seems more like United and Ten Hag simply didn't do their homework. Had they done they'd have known this is how we set up every game and adjusted their press accordingly.

- Then at 5.07 a bit on how good our high press was, with a particular shout out to Solanke who the guy claims is probably the best striker in the Prem at pressing the two centre backs, specifically the way he angle's his pressing to block out the ball to the other, as so:

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- Where does De Ligt even pass it here? Our midfield are cutting out all the balls into the middle, everyone ready to pounce. Which leaves either a rushed long ball, or a pass to the right back which will immediately trigger Werner to press him and then you're talking about frantic passes back to Onana.

- I'm convinced Solanke is the glue that makes this all work. Not just his high pressing, which is immense, but Son is also an incredible presser in the #9 and we didn't often have games like this. Where Solanke is so much better than Son (or Richy) is all his back-to-goal play on the ball. He's simply the focal point all our possession revolves around. Brilliant signing.

- United really are shocking in build up as Liverpool showed a fortnight ago but that said, our high press has come on leaps and bounds and huge credit there has to go to Ange and his team; pressing is all about coaching, and the difference in this game arguably came down to one very good press versus one atrocious one.

- 9.40: "This is how you'd play against Spurs if you'd never seen Spurs before". As good as we were this United team played right into our hands.

Agree with all of that.

There’s also a conversation to be had about possession here.

He says in the video and we all saw that UTD planned to go direct against our high line and he also said that was the only tactic our press left them with.

To me I don’t think that’s any different to the Newcastle or Leicester or even Woolwich game. The difference to me was the way we executed with the ball in this game and how poor their defensive structure was.
 
If it ever comes in it’s a Sin Bin tackle innit? Sort of worse than yellow but not quite hardcore enough for a red.

Anyway like others have said fuck him
No, it's a red... Doesn't have to be 'hardcore' ...it's a slip (accidental) then he raises his foot to flick at Maddison's leg (DELIBERATE)
The fact he's falling, and clearly out of control makes it even worse!

Slip, fall, do what you want, but don't hide behind that and attempt a snide shitty sneaky little flick to take him out with you!

THAT'S the red card offence bit of it, not the clumsy slip!

If he'd have slipped, fell and caught him with his falling leg, that's different... He falls awkwardly, he lands awkwardly, he's not in control of either foot...

But he RAISED one foot and AIMED a FLICK at Maddison's leg as he went down, in a deliberate act of petulance.

I'm surprised so many people failed to notice (or chose to ignore) this blatant a t of spite!

If that was Romero, we'd have been told what a dirty player he is, and to shut up and accept it!
 
Because it's boring and is a disservice to any notion of 'journalism' not cynically born out of pure marketing/shareholder-value perspectives. Morons not understanding this situation take the attention given to be an implicit sign of importance and so in addition to being cynical "newszak" it also simultaneously contributes to a general dumbing-down of society.

Do you get personal satisfaction from defending the corporate media, or just in general by being a contrarian?

Interesting you think I'm defending the media when I've merely just explained something you seemed pretty ignorant about but it's cool, keep on wearing that tin foil hat and thinking the media is out to get us and getting upset about something that's been happening for years and will continue to happen, no harm 🤷‍♂️
 
He slipped, but he still lunged at Maddison, knowing he was nowhere near the ball. I think he wanted to bring him down, he just wasn't trying to do it in a "red" type way, more of a trip way.

it was not a red. Should have been reduced to a yellow by VAR. But I've seen that cunt get away with so many snidey fucking fouls (yellow/red/dives) that I've got zero sympathy for the wankhorn.

I would have been happy with either card. However, it's karma. He is a gifted player who always plays the victim, and is niggling little cunt. Im just waiting for the day that Saka will get 2 yellows for diving.
 
It's deliberate 'cos he's Racist!!

Notice how Porro does the Sonny 'Camera' goal celebration...

That's deliberate alright... They're ostricising him until he stops being racist...disharmony amongst the entire squad...
Ange out!

Oh, sorry, I was just scrolling through Twatter and was told this!
I dunno know. When Dom scored the other day Sonny jumped on his back and Dom shook him off and then totally ignored him while celebrating with some others. That seemed deliberate as well
 
Interesting you think I'm defending the media when I've merely just explained something you seemed pretty ignorant about but it's cool, keep on wearing that tin foil hat and thinking the media is out to get us and getting upset about something that's been happening for years and will continue to happen, no harm 🤷‍♂️
Sure buddy- welcome back- I did notice you had occasioned to slither out of your den again.

I call you a contrarian and you call me tin-foil 😂😂 Pathetic low-blow ad-hominem. What is even the point in engagement when you continually presume your own infallibility, and furthermore, are mean-spirited and abusive in your tone?

Keep on doing your thing sweetie.
 
Sure buddy- welcome back- I did notice you had occasioned to slither out of your den again.

I call you a contrarian and you call me tin-foil 😂😂 Pathetic low-blow ad-hominem. What is even the point in engagement when you continually presume your own infallibility, and furthermore, are mean-spirited and abusive in your tone?

Keep on doing your thing sweetie.

Only reason I called you tin foil was because you were being disingenuous in your response, come on now fair is fair - you didn't actually think I was backing the media did you come on now :D

Anyway my bad for the reply no ill feeling on my part :)
 
Agree with all of that.

There’s also a conversation to be had about possession here.

He says in the video and we all saw that UTD planned to go direct against our high line and he also said that was the only tactic our press left them with.

To me I don’t think that’s any different to the Newcastle or Leicester or even Woolwich game. The difference to me was the way we executed with the ball in this game and how poor their defensive structure was.
United had zero discipline compared to those other teams. They have problems and it shows…
 
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