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Match Man Utd vs Tottenham Hotspur | Sunday 29 September | Old Trafford
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YEAH!
I would welcome a tit-for-tat approach where we have hawkeye all round so any kicks get a free kick back (you'd get your beast sociopath to dish them out) and then play restarts EXACTLY where it left off, momentum and all. Like Dr. Strange had nothing better to do. It would stop everyone doing it, because no one can get away with it.
Buuuut... Shit ain't like that. We've just got plenty of knobs who cheat their way to stealing points and justice is not balanced.
I hate 'professional' fouls, which is what Fernandes was presumably trying to do (albeit a clumsy reckless one), they are a waste of life and ruin the beautiful game. Great play getting broken up by immature twats 'taking one for the team'. Fuck fergie the cheating prick, it's all his fault!
I either want to see Helm's Deep-style games, where we're the Orcs camped outside the castle, mowing down their defence until we blow it to smithereens, or basketball-style where it's end-to-end action.
If I wanted to watch intermittent excitement with constant delays and people rolling around on the floor, I'd watch cricket. Or pornhub on a shitty connection.
OK well you're a dinosaur. Congratulations. Welcome to the Jurassic.
The game now puts the health and safety of the players above this rubbish that you spout. You can't be much of a fan if you haven't seen Spurs players badly crocked through oppo GBH masquerading as "tough tackling"
Half and half scarf though
Not attention seeking at all. Couldn’t blame anyone but himself if he was searching for his teeth minutes later.
Is a little silly.
I'm assuming he felt safe in the hospitality section.
View: https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1840824682909405207?t=9EBcicTUDhdncDCzI9UwJQ&s=19
When you can't even get in the Bayern team ahead of Eric Dier, you should have been warned.
Sorry to chime in on this, as it is clear that views are very split - but you can’t say because he slipped it means it wasn’t his intention to catch him studs up. You can’t know what his intention was either way. Might’ve been worse if he kept his feet… we will never know. But we cant conclusively say that the only reason it was high/studs up was because he slipped. What we do know is that slipping caused him to be out of control, which in itself constitutes the meeting of another red criteria. Watching real time, I didn’t see it as a red. Watching replay I thought it was soft and would feel aggrieved if it were the other way around. Watching objectively I thought that, by the letter of the law, it was enough to be a red.
Did you see the size of his fucking head?!
Wtf???
Been haunting me.
He slipped, but he still lunged at Maddison, knowing he was nowhere near the ball. I think he wanted to bring him down, he just wasn't trying to do it in a "red" type way, more of a trip way.
it was not a red. Should have been reduced to a yellow by VAR. But I've seen that cunt get away with so many snidey fucking fouls (yellow/red/dives) that I've got zero sympathy for the wankhorn.
Lads (& ladies), I’ve a live one on the hook!!
First United fan to respond to my not so gentle ribbing in several hours.
He’s a broken man.
“Embarrassing, weak, toothless and a fucking train wreck. I cannot be graceful about that: Can we move on before I get my own aneurism. That Ipswich lad Liam Delap has got game. His dad Rory was decent too”.
Nah mate. Let’s carry on dissecting yesterday instead. Much more relevant.
And Rory Delap was shit.
First United fan to respond to my not so gentle ribbing in several hours.
He’s a broken man.
“Embarrassing, weak, toothless and a fucking train wreck. I cannot be graceful about that: Can we move on before I get my own aneurism. That Ipswich lad Liam Delap has got game. His dad Rory was decent too”.
Nah mate. Let’s carry on dissecting yesterday instead. Much more relevant.
And Rory Delap was shit.
This is incredible, how can a supposed top level CB lack basic positioning.
I agree with the first part of this.
But…
It was an out of control lunge.
He had no idea where/how he was going to connect with Maddison (studs showing) and he plainly didn’t care as long as he stopped him in his tracks.
Luckily, he caught him with his ankle (shame he didn’t snap it in the process, but that is me being spiteful)
But he left his leg high,studs in view & caught Maddison high.
We can go round in circles forever, & it’s a game of opinions, but it’s 100% a red in mine and if it was one of our players I’d be angry at the player, not the referee or VAR.
As it was a straight red, my recollection is that he can appeal it? Hope he does for clarity purposes.
It is still being used by folk to suggest it was the decision that changes the game. That’s the bit that pisses me off.
We’d have won that game if they’d had 12
Players on the pitch. We didn’t “need” a decision. And both the ref/VAR must have been totally happy as those marginal decisions never go in favour of the away side at that shit hole.
I want Maddidon to be protected, if cunts sneeze around him it's a yellow 
Can't defend that bullshit tackle. I don't like to see that, those types are more likely to cause injuries than a nice full on old skool clean out slide tackle. Slipping not an excuse, he did not get paralyzed too. He thought he could make any sort of contact and get away with it because he slipped. Ref saw through that and punished him correctly. Stop defending it ffs.
Thank the gods, universe and whomever else that it did not hurt Madders.
Can't defend that bullshit tackle. I don't like to see that, those types are more likely to cause injuries than a nice full on old skool clean out slide tackle. Slipping not an excuse, he did not get paralyzed too. He thought he could make any sort of contact and get away with it because he slipped. Ref saw through that and punished him correctly. Stop defending it ffs.
Thank the gods, universe and whomever else that it did not hurt Madders.
Might not be the thread for this, but this is a good video on the tactical rundown of the game:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06YSJzCdWQ
- on about 3.30 he mentions we made a tactical tweak, pushing our fullbacks up higher, and United's press couldn't adapt, as so:
But what's strange to me is, we always do this? This isn't a tweak at all, I could find you a millions stills from our games under Ange ball and our set up is identical; fullbacks pushed high up alongside the #10s, and we're in a sort of 2-1-3-4 in build up, with absolutely massive spacing between the CBs and fullbacks.
The narrative of this bit in the video is that United couldn't adjust to our "tactical tweak" with the high fullbacks, and as a result their press was all disjointed. But to me it seems more like United and Ten Hag simply didn't do their homework. Had they done they'd have known this is how we set up every game and adjusted their press accordingly.
- Then at 5.07 a bit on how good our high press was, with a particular shout out to Solanke who the guy claims is probably the best striker in the Prem at pressing the two centre backs, specifically the way he angle's his pressing to block out the ball to the other, as so:
- Where does De Ligt even pass it here? Our midfield are cutting out all the balls into the middle, everyone ready to pounce. Which leaves either a rushed long ball, or a pass to the right back which will immediately trigger Werner to press him and then you're talking about frantic passes back to Onana.
- I'm convinced Solanke is the glue that makes this all work. Not just his high pressing, which is immense, but Son is also an incredible presser in the #9 and we didn't often have games like this. Where Solanke is so much better than Son (or Richy) is all his back-to-goal play on the ball. He's simply the focal point all our possession revolves around. Brilliant signing.
- United really are shocking in build up as Liverpool showed a fortnight ago but that said, our high press has come on leaps and bounds and huge credit there has to go to Ange and his team; pressing is all about coaching, and the difference in this game arguably came down to one very good press versus one atrocious one.
- 9.40: "This is how you'd play against Spurs if you'd never seen Spurs before". As good as we were this United team played right into our hands.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06YSJzCdWQ
- on about 3.30 he mentions we made a tactical tweak, pushing our fullbacks up higher, and United's press couldn't adapt, as so:
But what's strange to me is, we always do this? This isn't a tweak at all, I could find you a millions stills from our games under Ange ball and our set up is identical; fullbacks pushed high up alongside the #10s, and we're in a sort of 2-1-3-4 in build up, with absolutely massive spacing between the CBs and fullbacks.
The narrative of this bit in the video is that United couldn't adjust to our "tactical tweak" with the high fullbacks, and as a result their press was all disjointed. But to me it seems more like United and Ten Hag simply didn't do their homework. Had they done they'd have known this is how we set up every game and adjusted their press accordingly.
- Then at 5.07 a bit on how good our high press was, with a particular shout out to Solanke who the guy claims is probably the best striker in the Prem at pressing the two centre backs, specifically the way he angle's his pressing to block out the ball to the other, as so:
- Where does De Ligt even pass it here? Our midfield are cutting out all the balls into the middle, everyone ready to pounce. Which leaves either a rushed long ball, or a pass to the right back which will immediately trigger Werner to press him and then you're talking about frantic passes back to Onana.
- I'm convinced Solanke is the glue that makes this all work. Not just his high pressing, which is immense, but Son is also an incredible presser in the #9 and we didn't often have games like this. Where Solanke is so much better than Son (or Richy) is all his back-to-goal play on the ball. He's simply the focal point all our possession revolves around. Brilliant signing.
- United really are shocking in build up as Liverpool showed a fortnight ago but that said, our high press has come on leaps and bounds and huge credit there has to go to Ange and his team; pressing is all about coaching, and the difference in this game arguably came down to one very good press versus one atrocious one.
- 9.40: "This is how you'd play against Spurs if you'd never seen Spurs before". As good as we were this United team played right into our hands.
In fairness he looks hoovered enough to not remember getting his teeth Knocked out.
As daft as it is, I love that kind of brazen until it’s pointed out that he was a half/half scarf.
This would never have happened in the day. He’d have either been arrested, lynched or fucked off to his own section.
Liberties are taken everywhere these days.
I thought it was funny at the time but now I’m all reflective.