Mauricio Pochettino

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It's a matter of time before Pochettino wins trophies. If not with us, with someone else. He's a young manager and has gotten savvier with each passing season. Every measure other than trophy count support this. This season might buck that trend in terms of league finishing place, but it was always going to be transitional season of sorts while facing the challenge of bedding in to a temporary home.

How many managers outside the top 5 super clubs can point to 3 seasons of sustained progression and improvement with ambitions that match ours?
 
If Mourinho is bored of living in a Salford hotel, I'd bring him back to London. He'd inherit a squad ready to win, and a superior one to the United one he's currently in charge of.

Mourinho is a chequebook manager. Without money he is winning nothing. That Porto season was a one off he will never repeat again.
I also do not know what you mean with next level? You just have to accept as long as you have no sugar daddy
owner top 4 is the highest level you can expect. Even this is a miracle. It never ceases to amaze me how fans start to criticize a manager who constantly managed to outperform. You have beaten Real Madrid, you have beaten Borussia Dortmund, you are top in a CL group few gave you a chance to survive and all you can think of is getting rid of the manager? Pathetic.
 
Every few years, the Premier League throws up a team of loveable losers, winning plaudits for their style, their principles and their refreshing capacity to punch above their weight; O'Leary's Leeds, Keegan's Newcastle and even Rodgers' Liverpool briefly, all aroused admiration from the general football public, but ultimately failed to capitalise on the opportunity to establish a dynasty, and soon returned to relative mediocrity. Common factor in their downfall? An inability (or reluctance) to win a domestic cup competition to begin the winning cycle.

Enter Pocchettino, and his dismissive approach to the FA and League cups; in a squad collectively scarce on relevant winners medals, and at a club with practically no recent culture of winning, it's moronic of him to ignore the importance of putting something in the cabinet to forge that so-far elusive mentality.

For all of the vindicated admiration for the work the manager is doing with relatively limited resources and his development of young talent, he has to stop bottling it when it really matters: losing every big domestic head-to-head this season, and even going back to the best opportunity the club had to win the league in half a century in 2016, collapsing when going toe to toe with a bunch of championship players led by a Tinkerman.

He has some great players available to him, arguably the best in the league in practically every position - he can't hide behind rival investment forever, especially when he's had a stronger squad than the previous two league winners.

Not a popular view, but I feel it's time for Levy to evaluate whether Pocchettino is the right man to lead the club into the next phase of its development: the club now has the infrastructure to succeed, not just relatively but literally. The inability to find a win when it really matters in the recent past suggests he probably isn't.

This squad, with a proven winner coaching it, could do what those aforementioned clubs couldn't and establish a sustained, successful presence at the very top of English football. The way things are going at the minute, there's no guarantee of Champions League football going into the new stadium, especially if Pocchettino can't find a way to stop losing 6 pointers. Now the likes of Kane, Eriksen and Alli have experienced and excelled in Europe's elite environment, I doubt they'll be happy to be exiled from it, especially when the domestic and continental rivals who perpetually participate in it pay better wages.

Personally, I'm a bit of a Pocchettino fanboy for his contribution to the development of young British talent, but this club now both deserves and requires more than a glorified youth coach.

If Mourinho is bored of living in a Salford hotel, I'd bring him back to London. He'd inherit a squad ready to win, and a superior one to the United one he's currently in charge of. Being the man to finally bring success to a club previously starved of it would appeal to his ego too. Beyond him, Rafa Benitez has won with less talent at his disposal in a number of different environments - he's a cup specialist who, even if he didn't win the league, would help cultivate a winning culture to pass on to a longer term successor.

Rose and Walker got bored of working under Pocchettino, but that's relatively irrelevant: if Kane, the Dane, Toby, Vertonghen and Alli develop the same frustrations, Levy has a problem, because all would walk into 99% of winning teams in Europe, and be paid better for it too. They need to be stimulated by success, and I suspect Pocchettino has taken them and the club as far as he can now.

Yet again I find myself gobsmacked that some around here are actually suggesting booting out the best manager we've had in fucking years because we lost at the weekend. Seriously where did all this entitlement come from?? Fucking ingrates honestly.
 
Provide me some quotes of ENIC saying any of this, or have you just told yourself this so many times you believe it?
The second tier clubs I was speaking of are the likes of Juventus, Dortmund, Liverpool, the Goons. Which is exactly where the extra revenue from the stadium will put us. They all have reached the Champions League final in the recent past. That’s what I’m hoping for.
Will the revenue enable us to outspend the super rich clubs? No, so I suggest you go and support one of them

Provide you with quotes? Am I suddenly Google now do it your bloody self. If you seriously believe that an investment group headed by Joe Lewis who is well known for having little interest in the game bought the club for any other reason than that stated then I can only assume you haven’t been following the club in the last 17 years. Everyone knows their objective, want evidence view the old AGMs, look at back at the trust meetings, look at the old David Buchler interviews if you actually have any knowledge who he is.

As for Tier 2 clubs, well I take it you decided to drop Bayern Munich from that lol. Newsflash we are already placed in that grouping, our revenues are on par with Dortmund and we are not far behind Juve and the revenue growth of the PL will ensure that we will overtake those clubs in the coming years ( even without the new stadium). And forgive me what exactly is the relevance of this? Why do the likes of Dortmund or Juve have any bearing on us? Those clubs didnt reach the CL final because of their spending capacity, in fact they did against their limitations in comparison to other clubs. As for your last statement oh please don’t waste my time with such juvenile nonsense.
 
Did you just learn what “ad hominem” means in the past week and have a bet on with someone for how often you can use it?

Do you think it makes you seem clever?

It doesn’t.

No I learnt it in school over two decades ago but bless you it’s clearly new to you as why reference it otherwise? And no I don’t think it makes me clever because I don’t think using basic language constitutes that. Why actually makes me more clever than you and the ones who engage in this banal behaviour is that it is all you have. You’ve conceded the discussion.
 
No I learnt it in school over two decades ago but bless you it’s clearly new to you as why reference it otherwise? And no I don’t think it makes me clever because I don’t think using basic language constitutes that. Why actually makes me more clever than you and the ones who engage in this banal behaviour is that it is all you have. You’ve conceded the discussion.
Well done you. I’m in awe at your vocabulary. It is new to me, yes, but after seeing your liberal use of it, I looked it up. Your friends and family must be very proud of your ability to include it in loads of your posts. Keep up the good work. You’re making friends and allies on here with every passing day. It’s very impressive. You don’t come across like a cock at all.

Incidentally, I loved the “why actually makes me more clever than you” sentence above. Truly you are an intellectual heavyweight.
 
It wasn't a thing then..."but they have to get into the top four" was a thing though, and when we did that it was swiftly followed by "but they have to get into the top four on a regular basis"...it was at this point that there was a sudden appearance of a top 6 and the goalposts were shifted on to trophies...

Spot on. The change to 'top 6' is the most obvious sign of the goalposts shifting. To be honest i think it's got more to do with Manure finishing outside the top 4 than a dig at us, however.

As soon as we win something, it'll be called 'a start' and they'll call for another one. If it's a cup, we'll have to win the league. If it's the league, we'll have to win the CL (although to be fair Man City have been told to be better in the CL since they started qualifying).

There will always be something until we are serial trophy winners. A sad indictment of most press supporting the top money clubs over the properly run ones.
 
Well done you. I’m in awe at your vocabulary. It is new to me, yes, but after seeing your liberal use of it, I looked it up. Your friends and family must be very proud of your ability to include it in loads of your posts. Keep up the good work. You’re making friends and allies on here with every passing day. It’s very impressive. You don’t come across like a cock at all.

Incidentally, I loved the “why actually makes me more clever than you” sentence above. Truly you are an intellectual heavyweight.

I would be slightly worried for your sake if you are in awe of key stage 3 English. Forgive me I didn’t realise it was the X Factor here, I better get those like notifications moving then. In future I’ll just espouse the usual endless self congratulatory statements about the club, the deluge of comfort narratives about our future and call out the clear agenda in the media with our club. That will do it.
 
I'm a guy living in North London who supports Tottenham. Can i ask a more justified question...whats a Johnny come latelys..?
I thought that everyone just Googled stuff these days when they needed info. You obviously don't come onto this forum very often as I know the regulars posters, who know better than to disagree with me - especially when the post was a bit tongue-in-cheek.
 
I thought that everyone just Googled stuff these days when they needed info. You obviously don't come onto this forum very often as I know the regulars posters, who know better than to disagree with me - especially when the post was a bit tongue-in-cheek.

I can't even remember the post your talking about but why would anyone be concerned about disagreeing with you? Are you a bit over sensitive?
 
Every few years, the Premier League throws up a team of loveable losers, winning plaudits for their style, their principles and their refreshing capacity to punch above their weight; O'Leary's Leeds, Keegan's Newcastle and even Rodgers' Liverpool briefly, all aroused admiration from the general football public, but ultimately failed to capitalise on the opportunity to establish a dynasty, and soon returned to relative mediocrity. Common factor in their downfall? An inability (or reluctance) to win a domestic cup competition to begin the winning cycle.

Enter Pocchettino, and his dismissive approach to the FA and League cups; in a squad collectively scarce on relevant winners medals, and at a club with practically no recent culture of winning, it's moronic of him to ignore the importance of putting something in the cabinet to forge that so-far elusive mentality.

For all of the vindicated admiration for the work the manager is doing with relatively limited resources and his development of young talent, he has to stop bottling it when it really matters: losing every big domestic head-to-head this season, and even going back to the best opportunity the club had to win the league in half a century in 2016, collapsing when going toe to toe with a bunch of championship players led by a Tinkerman.

He has some great players available to him, arguably the best in the league in practically every position - he can't hide behind rival investment forever, especially when he's had a stronger squad than the previous two league winners.

Not a popular view, but I feel it's time for Levy to evaluate whether Pocchettino is the right man to lead the club into the next phase of its development: the club now has the infrastructure to succeed, not just relatively but literally. The inability to find a win when it really matters in the recent past suggests he probably isn't.

This squad, with a proven winner coaching it, could do what those aforementioned clubs couldn't and establish a sustained, successful presence at the very top of English football. The way things are going at the minute, there's no guarantee of Champions League football going into the new stadium, especially if Pocchettino can't find a way to stop losing 6 pointers. Now the likes of Kane, Eriksen and Alli have experienced and excelled in Europe's elite environment, I doubt they'll be happy to be exiled from it, especially when the domestic and continental rivals who perpetually participate in it pay better wages.

Personally, I'm a bit of a Pocchettino fanboy for his contribution to the development of young British talent, but this club now both deserves and requires more than a glorified youth coach.

If Mourinho is bored of living in a Salford hotel, I'd bring him back to London
. He'd inherit a squad ready to win, and a superior one to the United one he's currently in charge of. Being the man to finally bring success to a club previously starved of it would appeal to his ego too. Beyond him, Rafa Benitez has won with less talent at his disposal in a number of different environments - he's a cup specialist who, even if he didn't win the league, would help cultivate a winning culture to pass on to a longer term successor.

Rose and Walker got bored of working under Pocchettino, but that's relatively irrelevant: if Kane, the Dane, Toby, Vertonghen and Alli develop the same frustrations, Levy has a problem, because all would walk into 99% of winning teams in Europe, and be paid better for it too. They need to be stimulated by success, and I suspect Pocchettino has taken them and the club as far as he can now.

Ewwwwwwwwwwww!!! ...He wants Maureen.

:vdvcry:

P.s. If Rafa is such a 'builder', why have Liverpool been a nothing team ever since he won the CL?
 
Provide you with quotes? Am I suddenly Google now do it your bloody self. If you seriously believe that an investment group headed by Joe Lewis who is well known for having little interest in the game bought the club for any other reason than that stated then I can only assume you haven’t been following the club in the last 17 years. Everyone knows their objective, want evidence view the old AGMs, look at back at the trust meetings, look at the old David Buchler interviews if you actually have any knowledge who he is.

As for Tier 2 clubs, well I take it you decided to drop Bayern Munich from that lol. Newsflash we are already placed in that grouping, our revenues are on par with Dortmund and we are not far behind Juve and the revenue growth of the PL will ensure that we will overtake those clubs in the coming years ( even without the new stadium). And forgive me what exactly is the relevance of this? Why do the likes of Dortmund or Juve have any bearing on us? Those clubs didnt reach the CL final because of their spending capacity, in fact they did against their limitations in comparison to other clubs. As for your last statement oh please don’t waste my time with such juvenile nonsense.

You're back.... Shame.
 
Listen I’m not calling for him to go but if he did choose to and we could bring i the likes of Anchelotti or Simeone then I would be fairly happy as we have upgraded on him.
Simeone is actually in the betting list with Paddy Power to take over from Pulis at West Brom. Not one of the favourites mind.
 
Why the fuck are you idiots talking about Diego Simeone?!

Mauricio Pochettino is our manager and will be for the next glorious decade.

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