Mauricio Pochettino

[Mrs Perryman]

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but anyone who wants another manager instead of our Poch needs their bumps feeling!!!

 

[Ossie Wembley]

Why the fuck are you idiots talking about Diego Simeone?!

Mauricio Pochettino is our manager and will be for the next glorious decade.

Blind delusion in all of its glory.

You just know that it will be the same people liking this calling him a cunt and screaming for him to go at the first sign their warped expectation levels are not met.

 

[Jurgen's Binnman]

Blind delusion in all of its glory.

You just know that it will be the same people liking this calling him a cunt and screaming for him to go at the first sign their warped expectation levels are not met.

Some cunts on here are already calling for him to be replaced because their expectations aren’t being met.

 

[ArtyB]

Spot on. The change to 'top 6' is the most obvious sign of the goalposts shifting. To be honest i think it's got more to do with Manure finishing outside the top 4 than a dig at us, however.

It has a bit more to do with the fact that City and ourselves have broken up the traditional Sky Top 4, so they came up with a top six so two of them wouldn't be missing out on their usual hype, it wasn't really a problem when it was just Liverpool that missed out though I'll agree that the beloved Utd missing out was a watershed moment.

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

 

[Thin Lilywhite Duke]

Ewwwwwwwwwwww!!! ...He wants Maureen.



P.s. If Rafa is such a 'builder', why have Liverpool been a nothing team ever since he won the CL?

Are you implying their CL win had an element of luck about it?

FIIIIIIVE TIIIIIMES

 

[VirginiaSpur]

It sounds crazy, but it's true. At this same point last season some people were saying Pochettino wouldn't last the season.

Starting in October 2016, we:
Beat Man City yay, but then...
Drew West Brom
Drew Bayern Leverkusen
Drew Bournmouth
Lost to Liverpool - dumped out of the League Cup
Drew Leicester
Lost to B. Leverkusen
Drew Woolwich
Squeaked by a win 3-2 over West Ham
Lost to Monaco
And on Nov. 26 lost to Chelsea 2-1

 

[tbonepremier]

Every few years, the Premier League throws up a team of loveable losers, winning plaudits for their style, their principles and their refreshing capacity to punch above their weight; O'Leary's Leeds, Keegan's Newcastle and even Rodgers' Liverpool briefly, all aroused admiration from the general football public, but ultimately failed to capitalise on the opportunity to establish a dynasty, and soon returned to relative mediocrity. Common factor in their downfall? An inability (or reluctance) to win a domestic cup competition to begin the winning cycle.

Enter Pocchettino, and his dismissive approach to the FA and League cups; in a squad collectively scarce on relevant winners medals, and at a club with practically no recent culture of winning, it's moronic of him to ignore the importance of putting something in the cabinet to forge that so-far elusive mentality.

For all of the vindicated admiration for the work the manager is doing with relatively limited resources and his development of young talent, he has to stop bottling it when it really matters: losing every big domestic head-to-head this season, and even going back to the best opportunity the club had to win the league in half a century in 2016, collapsing when going toe to toe with a bunch of championship players led by a Tinkerman.

He has some great players available to him, arguably the best in the league in practically every position - he can't hide behind rival investment forever, especially when he's had a stronger squad than the previous two league winners.

Not a popular view, but I feel it's time for Levy to evaluate whether Pocchettino is the right man to lead the club into the next phase of its development: the club now has the infrastructure to succeed, not just relatively but literally. The inability to find a win when it really matters in the recent past suggests he probably isn't.

This squad, with a proven winner coaching it, could do what those aforementioned clubs couldn't and establish a sustained, successful presence at the very top of English football. The way things are going at the minute, there's no guarantee of Champions League football going into the new stadium, especially if Pocchettino can't find a way to stop losing 6 pointers. Now the likes of Kane, Eriksen and Alli have experienced and excelled in Europe's elite environment, I doubt they'll be happy to be exiled from it, especially when the domestic and continental rivals who perpetually participate in it pay better wages.

Personally, I'm a bit of a Pocchettino fanboy for his contribution to the development of young British talent, but this club now both deserves and requires more than a glorified youth coach.

If Mourinho is bored of living in a Salford hotel, I'd bring him back to London. He'd inherit a squad ready to win, and a superior one to the United one he's currently in charge of. Being the man to finally bring success to a club previously starved of it would appeal to his ego too. Beyond him, Rafa Benitez has won with less talent at his disposal in a number of different environments - he's a cup specialist who, even if he didn't win the league, would help cultivate a winning culture to pass on to a longer term successor.

Rose and Walker got bored of working under Pocchettino, but that's relatively irrelevant: if Kane, the Dane, Toby, Vertonghen and Alli develop the same frustrations, Levy has a problem, because all would walk into 99% of winning teams in Europe, and be paid better for it too. They need to be stimulated by success, and I suspect Pocchettino has taken them and the club as far as he can now.

How can anyone come up with such deranged bullshit?

 

[tbonepremier]

Every few years, the Premier League throws up a team of loveable losers, winning plaudits for their style, their principles and their refreshing capacity to punch above their weight; O'Leary's Leeds, Keegan's Newcastle and even Rodgers' Liverpool briefly, all aroused admiration from the general football public, but ultimately failed to capitalise on the opportunity to establish a dynasty, and soon returned to relative mediocrity. Common factor in their downfall? An inability (or reluctance) to win a domestic cup competition to begin the winning cycle.

Leeds spent themselves into massive debt that crushed the club.

Liverpool had massive holes in their squad but won a lot of games one season because: Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge were on fire and noone knew how to deal with it; hey had the advantage of no European football and early exits from domestic cups; and Skrtel was allowed to Skrtel his opponents.

Newcastle, like Leeds, overspent and they were too offensive.

What they had i common was that they lacked the financial muscles and the attraction to sustain their success. A league cup trophy would do nothing to change that.

Enter Pocchettino, and his dismissive approach to the FA and League cups; in a squad collectively scarce on relevant winners medals, and at a club with practically no recent culture of winning, it's moronic of him to ignore the importance of putting something in the cabinet to forge that so-far elusive mentality.

Did you know, in 2012, two years prior to their non-succesful title-contending season, Liverpool won the league cup. How much have they won since? That's the Liverpool team you were just mentioning above.

2013, Swansea won it. Turned them into invincible champs, ye?

2011, Birmingham.

What did Leicester win to make them run the league home?

Your argument is constructed. There's no evidence, let alone indication, that winning the league cup would make a team more likely to win more important trophies later.

For all of the vindicated admiration for the work the manager is doing with relatively limited resources and his development of young talent, he has to stop bottling it when it really matters: losing every big domestic head-to-head this season, and even going back to the best opportunity the club had to win the league in half a century in 2016, collapsing when going toe to toe with a bunch of championship players led by a Tinkerman.

He hasn't lost every big domestic game. We crushed Liverpool 4-1. We've been unfortunate (!) in three games. Not good enough, but we've lost to referee errors against Woolwich and unfortunate mistakes against United and Chelsea, while missing a lot of players to injuries against Arse and United.

We certainly didn't bottle it against Leicester. They were far ahead the whole time and barely dropped points at all. We were never really close. A lot of people thought we were, because they expected Leicester to drop. They didn't.

He has some great players available to him, arguably the best in the league in practically every position - he can't hide behind rival investment forever, especially when he's had a stronger squad than the previous two league winners.

If he has, it's because he's made them the best. You can't really use that as a stick to beat him with, can you? Who saw Dembele as the best midfielder in the league prior to Poch? Or Eriksen as world class? Or Vertonghen, Rose and Walker as the best in the league in their positions? Would Kane have become what he is under Pulis, Wenger or fucking Mourinho?

Not a popular view, but I feel it's time for Levy to evaluate whether Pocchettino is the right man to lead the club into the next phase of its development: the club now has the infrastructure to succeed, not just relatively but literally. The inability to find a win when it really matters in the recent past suggests he probably isn't.

Retarded views rarely are very popular. Your evaluation on that point is quite precise.

Poch finds wins when it really matters all the time. Cause, you know, it doesn't only really matter whenever we lose.

This squad, with a proven winner coaching it, could do what those aforementioned clubs couldn't and establish a sustained, successful presence at the very top of English football. The way things are going at the minute, there's no guarantee of Champions League football going into the new stadium, especially if Pocchettino can't find a way to stop losing 6 pointers. Now the likes of Kane, Eriksen and Alli have experienced and excelled in Europe's elite environment, I doubt they'll be happy to be exiled from it, especially when the domestic and continental rivals who perpetually participate in it pay better wages.

The only thing you can say for a fact when you bring in a "proven winner" is that he's won something in the past. "Proven winners" are given the sweetest jobs in the world of football all the time, and they often fail. Van Gaal in United? Fail. Ancelotti in Bayern? Fail. Benitez in Real Madrid? Fail.

What's more with "proven winners" is they often come in with an arrogance and an old-fashioned way of doing things that may be destructive to a club, and take it backwards. Furthermore, they often demand to spend huge, as that's what they are used to and what they need to create any success.

Personally, I'm a bit of a Pocchettino fanboy for his contribution to the development of young British talent, but this club now both deserves and requires more than a glorified youth coach.

No, you're not. You're a spoiled, ungrateful cunt who lack the sense to understand what Poch has done and is doing for our club. Last night I think I actually heard Brighton fans boo they team at half time. You're that kind of fan.

If Mourinho is bored of living in a Salford hotel, I'd bring him back to London. He'd inherit a squad ready to win, and a superior one to the United one he's currently in charge of. Being the man to finally bring success to a club previously starved of it would appeal to his ego too. Beyond him, Rafa Benitez has won with less talent at his disposal in a number of different environments - he's a cup specialist who, even if he didn't win the league, would help cultivate a winning culture to pass on to a longer term successor.

Of all the ridiculously retarded things you've written in this post, this surely must be the worst. Mourinho would be the worst thing that could happen to this team and this club.

Rose and Walker got bored of working under Pocchettino, but that's relatively irrelevant: if Kane, the Dane, Toby, Vertonghen and Alli develop the same frustrations, Levy has a problem, because all would walk into 99% of winning teams in Europe, and be paid better for it too. They need to be stimulated by success, and I suspect Pocchettino has taken them and the club as far as he can now.

No, they don't need to be stimulated by success. They need to be stimulated by a healthy work environment, working under a manager they like and believe in, as part of a project that improves every player as well as the club.

You really think they'd be more likely to stay should Mourinho come on board and they'd win a league cup? If they played for a cunt and all that mattered was winning, I'm sure they would rather play for a richer club.

One thing. In that quite extensive post, you were right about one thing: Your opinion isn't popular. Because it is ridiculously stupid.

 

[Totti]

100 wins in 181 games now.

 

[ArtyB]

100 wins in 181 games now.

First manager to win 100 games since Burkinshaw...

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

100 wins in 181 games now.

Just heard first Spurs manager since The General

 

[Jurgen's Binnman]

Leeds spent themselves into massive debt that crushed the club.

Liverpool had massive holes in their squad but won a lot of games one season because: Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge were on fire and noone knew how to deal with it; hey had the advantage of no European football and early exits from domestic cups; and Skrtel was allowed to Skrtel his opponents.

Newcastle, like Leeds, overspent and they were too offensive.

What they had i common was that they lacked the financial muscles and the attraction to sustain their success. A league cup trophy would do nothing to change that.



Did you know, in 2012, two years prior to their non-succesful title-contending season, Liverpool won the league cup. How much have they won since? That's the Liverpool team you were just mentioning above.

2013, Swansea won it. Turned them into invincible champs, ye?

2011, Birmingham.

What did Leicester win to make them run the league home?

Your argument is constructed. There's no evidence, let alone indication, that winning the league cup would make a team more likely to win more important trophies later.



He hasn't lost every big domestic game. We crushed Liverpool 4-1. We've been unfortunate (!) in three games. Not good enough, but we've lost to referee errors against Woolwich and unfortunate mistakes against United and Chelsea, while missing a lot of players to injuries against Arse and United.

We certainly didn't bottle it against Leicester. They were far ahead the whole time and barely dropped points at all. We were never really close. A lot of people thought we were, because they expected Leicester to drop. They didn't.



If he has, it's because he's made them the best. You can't really use that as a stick to beat him with, can you? Who saw Dembele as the best midfielder in the league prior to Poch? Or Eriksen as world class? Or Vertonghen, Rose and Walker as the best in the league in their positions? Would Kane have become what he is under Pulis, Wenger or fucking Mourinho?



Retarded views rarely are very popular. Your evaluation on that point is quite precise.

Poch finds wins when it really matters all the time. Cause, you know, it doesn't only really matter whenever we lose.



The only thing you can say for a fact when you bring in a "proven winner" is that he's won something in the past. "Proven winners" are given the sweetest jobs in the world of football all the time, and they often fail. Van Gaal in United? Fail. Ancelotti in Bayern? Fail. Benitez in Real Madrid? Fail.

What's more with "proven winners" is they often come in with an arrogance and an old-fashioned way of doing things that may be destructive to a club, and take it backwards. Furthermore, they often demand to spend huge, as that's what they are used to and what they need to create any success.



No, you're not. You're a spoiled, ungrateful cunt who lack the sense to understand what Poch has done and is doing for our club. Last night I think I actually heard Brighton fans boo they team at half time. You're that kind of fan.



Of all the ridiculously retarded things you've written in this post, this surely must be the worst. Mourinho would be the worst thing that could happen to this team and this club.



No, they don't need to be stimulated by success. They need to be stimulated by a healthy work environment, working under a manager they like and believe in, as part of a project that improves every player as well as the club.

You really think they'd be more likely to stay should Mourinho come on board and they'd win a league cup? If they played for a cunt and all that mattered was winning, I'm sure they would rather play for a richer club.

One thing. In that quite extensive post, you were right about one thing: Your opinion isn't popular. Because it is ridiculously stupid.

I wish I could give this multiple agrees.

 

[Sobie]

Leeds spent themselves into massive debt that crushed the club.

Liverpool had massive holes in their squad but won a lot of games one season because: Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge were on fire and noone knew how to deal with it; hey had the advantage of no European football and early exits from domestic cups; and Skrtel was allowed to Skrtel his opponents.

Newcastle, like Leeds, overspent and they were too offensive.

What they had i common was that they lacked the financial muscles and the attraction to sustain their success. A league cup trophy would do nothing to change that.



Did you know, in 2012, two years prior to their non-succesful title-contending season, Liverpool won the league cup. How much have they won since? That's the Liverpool team you were just mentioning above.

2013, Swansea won it. Turned them into invincible champs, ye?

2011, Birmingham.

What did Leicester win to make them run the league home?

Your argument is constructed. There's no evidence, let alone indication, that winning the league cup would make a team more likely to win more important trophies later.



He hasn't lost every big domestic game. We crushed Liverpool 4-1. We've been unfortunate (!) in three games. Not good enough, but we've lost to referee errors against Woolwich and unfortunate mistakes against United and Chelsea, while missing a lot of players to injuries against Arse and United.

We certainly didn't bottle it against Leicester. They were far ahead the whole time and barely dropped points at all. We were never really close. A lot of people thought we were, because they expected Leicester to drop. They didn't.



If he has, it's because he's made them the best. You can't really use that as a stick to beat him with, can you? Who saw Dembele as the best midfielder in the league prior to Poch? Or Eriksen as world class? Or Vertonghen, Rose and Walker as the best in the league in their positions? Would Kane have become what he is under Pulis, Wenger or fucking Mourinho?



Retarded views rarely are very popular. Your evaluation on that point is quite precise.

Poch finds wins when it really matters all the time. Cause, you know, it doesn't only really matter whenever we lose.



The only thing you can say for a fact when you bring in a "proven winner" is that he's won something in the past. "Proven winners" are given the sweetest jobs in the world of football all the time, and they often fail. Van Gaal in United? Fail. Ancelotti in Bayern? Fail. Benitez in Real Madrid? Fail.

What's more with "proven winners" is they often come in with an arrogance and an old-fashioned way of doing things that may be destructive to a club, and take it backwards. Furthermore, they often demand to spend huge, as that's what they are used to and what they need to create any success.



No, you're not. You're a spoiled, ungrateful cunt who lack the sense to understand what Poch has done and is doing for our club. Last night I think I actually heard Brighton fans boo they team at half time. You're that kind of fan.



Of all the ridiculously retarded things you've written in this post, this surely must be the worst. Mourinho would be the worst thing that could happen to this team and this club.



No, they don't need to be stimulated by success. They need to be stimulated by a healthy work environment, working under a manager they like and believe in, as part of a project that improves every player as well as the club.

You really think they'd be more likely to stay should Mourinho come on board and they'd win a league cup? If they played for a cunt and all that mattered was winning, I'm sure they would rather play for a richer club.

One thing. In that quite extensive post, you were right about one thing: Your opinion isn't popular. Because it is ridiculously stupid.

Excuse me sir, you've dropped your Mic.

 

[Reidy]

Poch gets things wrong from time to time, all managers do. Poch makes strange calls sometimes, though even when he does, they mostly work out. Poch picks players we disagree with, but then they perform for him.

I wouldn't want any other manager in World football at my club,I doubt any genuine Spurs fan would. I can't help but feel any dissenters on here might be casting a jealous eye in our direction while their German fucktard manager throws away 3-0 half time leads.

 

[1882]

....in other (sadder) news, I see Poch's '70s sitcom alter-ego died yesterday...

RIP Likely Lad!

 

[B-0-Sspurs]

How can anyone come up with such deranged bullshit?

Incredible isn't it? Someone actually wrote that garbage.

Because all the other top clubs field their best 11 in the league cup? Yet only spurs seem to get knocked by the media when we go out and accused of not taking it seriously.

I would love us to win the league or fa cup, but we are no different to any other top team, we will play our squad players until the semi or final.

 

[Reidy]

Incredible isn't it? Someone actually wrote that garbage.

Because all the other top clubs field their best 11 in the league cup? Yet only spurs seem to get knocked by the media when we go out and accused of not taking it seriously.

I would love us to win the league or fa cup, but we are no different to any other top team, we will play our squad players until the semi or final.

Spot on mate.

Remember a few years ago Man Ure gave the FA cup a bodyswerve so that they could play in the World Club Championship (which they made a rip roaring cunt of by the way) remember? Remember it was because the FA Cup wasn't that important, neither was the League cup? A team disappearing straight up their own collective arseholes.

So why the exuberant celebrations and mass of plaudits for winning the League cup last year? Man Ure winning a trophy deemed for so long below them. Was it because they spent the best part of £200 million to achieve something that for so long meant nothing to them? Is that what difference a "proven winner" makes.

It's different for us, no one wants to see us as "a big team", they want us as the mid 90s to 00s Spurs, nice football but weak and easily put in "our place". Well times have changed, I hope our patience is rewarded, and if there really is a God, he'll look down and see that this team, with this management team, simply deserve to win, not only a trophy, but a big trophy at that (once he's stopped laughing at Lolerpool and the Spammers !)

 

[White Van Jan]

Every few years, the Premier League throws up a team of loveable losers, winning plaudits for their style, their principles and their refreshing capacity to punch above their weight; O'Leary's Leeds, Keegan's Newcastle and even Rodgers' Liverpool briefly, all aroused admiration from the general football public, but ultimately failed to capitalise on the opportunity to establish a dynasty, and soon returned to relative mediocrity. Common factor in their downfall? An inability (or reluctance) to win a domestic cup competition to begin the winning cycle.
.

Your original analysis is very, very wrong. Least said about the rest of your post the better, and TBone's done a good job on forensically taking apart every point you make.

Leeds, Newcastle and Liverpool failed. Nothing to do with not winning an FA or League Cup. Everything to do with that all 3 were paper thin and had no firm foundations.

Leeds - "success" based on betting the club on being in the CL every season. The minute that dried up, they collapsed like a pack of cards. Even winning the Premiership 2 years earlier wouldn't have changed that.

Newcastle - Keegan actually binned the reserve and youth set ups. So the strategy suddenly became very high risk - totally dependent on buying every player in the club. And even the managers with the best buying records still buy a lot of Turkeys. Even Fergie, and even Whinger in his best years. Jeffers? Richard Wright?

Liverpool - "success" built on one player, Suarez. Bale anyone? Rodgers needed to buy very well with him and Gerard gone. I knew he'd completely lost it when he went for Balotelli (he's top of the list of google search "Man City idiot footballer"). Again, even getting 3 more pts and winning the Premiership that season wouldnt have made a blind bit of difference.

Poch has managed to turn the squad around in after just one transitional season. From a completely imbalanced squad to the only other title challenger. And improving on that the next season. And looking like we can carry on improving this one. Lloris, Moose, Rose, Jan, Eriksen - everyone else he's bought or brought through. And with Hugo and Jan he's managed to keep them. They absolutely would have walked otherwise. And btw he's improved Rose, Eriksen and Verts significantly.

If I have a beef with him, it's with which cups he goes for. He competed for EL in 2014-15, and 2015-16. Without that, we possibly could have won the title over Leicester 2016 and the 2015 League Cup. But the former, you'd need to have been a fortune teller to see that one coming, especially after our anaemic start with a loss and 3 draws. And beating Chavski in the League Cup wouldnt have made any difference at all.

And some seasons we havent given the FA cup a decent go. It's only 6 matches in all to win it. But foreign managers often see the EL as much more prestigious, and it should be up to the club to set the objectives differently.

Even though other managers have won cups, imo Poch's record with what he started with and what he's done so far makes him exceptional. Arguably the best we've ever had.

 

[B-0-Sspurs]

Here is the other bit i don't get, suddenly the media is declaring ' spurs have to win something'

Yes, fair point so we are no different to any club in that regard but the ' must win something' tag is aimed at us as our current form is perceived to be a temporary thing until we go back to our mid table form of 20 years ago.

The media are idiots if they believe this and are doing Poch a massive disservice as they are not listening ( or don't want to listen) to what he is saying, we are laying foundations for the long term, sustained success of the club, it's why we are building a stadium to allow us to compete at the top, it's why our training facilities are the envy of most around Europe, it's where talented youngsters today will become the next harry Kane, as young English players are given a chance at our club. Trophies will arrive but who knows when? And if we do achieve long term success under poch then that will be the perfect response to the idiots that infest the media