When Spurs do it.When did the definition of "bottled" get changed to mean " lost a match because the opposition played better"?
I must have missed that memo.

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When Spurs do it.When did the definition of "bottled" get changed to mean " lost a match because the opposition played better"?
I must have missed that memo.
Agree on more rotation, better strength in depth. But also perhaps having a better plan B when we can't press, which I think we have done to some extent (look at Dortmund home and Madrid away) but maybe we could improve at this.
I think the game plan against United was to bombard them from the start and try and get a lead. It was- IMO- the right plan and nearly worked. A 2-0 lead would have probably won us the game. Unfortunately Dembele made an error which led to a goal, let's not forget against most teams it would not be a goal from there, it was also an excellent cross and header.
Man United don't play the same way and therefore were much fitter in the closing stages, we had burned ourselves out in the first part of the game, but if I was manager I would do the same again as the best way to beat them, and hope that we get that second goal or hold onto the lead better.
Aston Villa saved themselves from being double relegated to League 1 by sacking him while still in the Prem.Behave Sammy, there's no fucking way that you can spin Timmy into saving anyone from relegation...
I'd rather give credit to the players for getting 6th in spite of him...Im simply giving him credit for what he did do, not slating him for some made up scenario that didnt come to pass
Under Sherwood we also lost 5-1 to City, 4-0 to Chelsea, and 4-0 to Liverpool.It was more the performances for me.....if ever a team was screaming "dressing room lost" it was that 5-0 at home to Liverpool.
You were factually correct - he did take us to a 6th place finish.........from 5th place
Under Sherwood we also lost 5-1 to City, 4-0 to Chelsea, and 4-0 to Liverpool.
Meanwhile he almost pushed Lloris and Vertonghen out the door, and in one match played Sigurdsson and Chadli in center-midfield.
Did get them to an FA cup final though.........Behave Sammy, there's no fucking way that you can spin Timmy into saving anyone from relegation...
I'd rather give credit to the players for getting 6th in spite of him...
Didn't he also play Kyle Walker central midfield one game? Truly embarrassing scenesUnder Sherwood we also lost 5-1 to City, 4-0 to Chelsea, and 4-0 to Liverpool.
Meanwhile he almost pushed Lloris and Vertonghen out the door, and in one match played Sigurdsson and Chadli in center-midfield.
Im simply giving him credit for what he did do, not slating him for some made up scenario that didnt come to pass
Against Chelsea and we were doing well until the ref fucked us over, if we'd had son back then maybe we could have played him at right back..... you know like we did last seaon....Didn't he also play Kyle Walker central midfield one game? Truly embarrassing scenes
I said relegation scrap, which usually follows a manger losing the dressing room.
AVB rode the coat tails of Redknapps team in his first season, but much like Ramos after Jol the novelty wore very thin later on.
He had already turned us from the most exciting team in the PL
(Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson says 'Tottenham are Premiership's best team at the moment') into a turgid pile of shit which is what got him sacked at Chelsea.
Not sure what that has to do with anything... You were complaining about hyperbole only to then suggest we were in such peril which is a gross exageration.
More than a bit rich is all...
Got nothing to do with what i think of the individual managers past or present.
So what is it? Tim was unfairly maligned because he saved us from relegation, or we were wrong to expect him to do better?He had no badges, yet was no worse than AVB who had PL experience
If people expected top 4 under Tim, then they should be expecting titles under Poch....should have reigned in your expectations in 2013.
People might not like him and thats fine, but that doesnt run parallel with "he was shit".
Life doesnt work like that.
So what is it? Tim was unfairly maligned because he saved us from relegation, or we were wrong to expect him to do better?
We were flat-track bullies under AVB that got blown away by the big sides, and we were flat-track bullies under Tim that got blown away by the big sides. The results really didn't change very much, only the methods did. They were both absolutely woeful managers, but I do grant Sherwood credit for giving youth a chance.
He was clueless like the football we started playing under him. Adebayor had a brief renaissance under him having not played for months and being desperate for a new contract but his enthusiasm soon wavered and he soon reverted to the half hearted headless chicken he was before. Sherwood has not exactly shined since leaving us which speaks volumes and his interviews at the time and his punditry since show he has little tactical nous and he was clearly out of his depth in the premier league.
Just an opinion but to me that means he was shit!
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I remember how I felt at the end of AVBs tenure even if no one else does