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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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The guy hasn't been here long at all. It's not his team yet.
Personally I like what I'm seeing, there's signs of improvement.
We can't keep changing managers and who do we get if we do?
We're nowhere near the Ginola years. I remember those games.... it was embarassing. Once the ball is at the halfway line, pass to Ginola, stand back and watch him work his magic, while the opposition stick 4 people on the guy
He struggles like anyone with a small squad does. If you can't rotate or give the team an extra few doses of steriods, December in the Premier League will chew you up. Every small squad suffers this way. It will happen to Southampton again this year. It will also happen to us, Everton, Woolwich, Swansea and probably Chelski.
The only way we get around it will be with a lot of use of the Development Squad, since Pochettino's selections over the past month have telegraphed pretty well that several senior players are not fit for purpose. It'll be better once Pochettino has a full squad of players he trusts, but that's a way off.
Stoke:
7 played, 2 wins, 2 draws, 3 losses
Crystal Palace:
6 played, 3 wins, 3 losses
Hull City:
7 played, 2 wins, 3 draws, 2 losses
Sunderland:
7 played, 2 wins, 2 draws, 3 losses
Swansea:
7 played, 1 win, 3 draws, 3 losses
Poch's Southampton:
7 played, 1 win, 2 draws, 4 losses. One of the worst December records out of any club in the premier league, whether their squad is big or small. After going through every teams December fixtures Poch had the joint third worst December record out of every team in terms of points. So no, he didn't "Struggle like anyone else".
The guy can not handle a lot of matches in quick succession. I'm not looking forward to this month..
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I am totally someone who believes in poch and want to give him at least two seasons to prove himself, however he needs to change his tactics if he wants any hope of staying. After watching about two seasons of a 4-2-3-1 (AVB/Poch) I just don't think it works well for a team like us. you need the worlds best players to do a 4-2-3-1( like chelski scum) and then it works very well. we are crying out for azza and a second striker. 4-4-2 needs to be tried at the very least. I think sherwood saw this, too bad he was a wanker.
I am not seeing much difference between 3 losses and 4. If you want to, fine, but that's not a dramatic looking difference to me. We will see what December brings for us. People also said he couldn't win if the team went a goal down. We've come from behind to win 4 times so far this year.
But you know, he's awful and everything that happened at Southampton will happen to us as well.
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He went with 4-4-2 against Everton. And his 4-2-3-1 uses the left winger to become a 4-4-2 in attack. Formations are not static objects.
Where the hell is Townsend? Some old fashioned left footer on the left, right footer on the right at home next up Poch! Also a bit of rotation wouldn't go astray either.
Other than that not much he can do with this mish-mashed shite squad!
Other than that not much he can do with this mish-mashed shite squad!
I personally feel like Poch has't done too bad considering he is imposing a complete new style of play on a bunch of players that are having to adapt and rebuild morale after a traumatic year last time around.
Also you've only got to look at the league table to realise that this year has been a very strange year for results across the whole BPL.... I mean Spam 3rd? REALLY!
Also you've only got to look at the league table to realise that this year has been a very strange year for results across the whole BPL.... I mean Spam 3rd? REALLY!
Townsend's injured. If he comes back from injury soon, and with the level of improvement Bentaleb has shown since his return, it will be a very good thing.
I'm with you on that. I don't see anything convincing me that he is any better than any other manager we've had in the last 10 years (excluding Ramos). I can't see how he is going to turn it round.
I don't want him sacked purely on the basis that we should give managers more time and never do, and frankly it's embarrassing how many we have had in the last 10 years.
Maybe we will something soon to suggest that he is capable, might as well see the season out at least, we know we're going to finish 11th, might as well just face it.
The jist of it was that in terms of points he came out third lowest, making your point about "Everyone struggles" completely mute.
He can't manage December and he can't manage a lot of games. I even post stats and facts to back this up and I get disagreed. Why, exactly? Are you disagreeing with the facts, which are blatantly there? I don't see much else you could disagree about.
Let's just see how he does for Tottenham Hotspur not Southampton before you cast your stones fella, it's the 7th of December FFS!
I'm not sure what is resolved by sacking MP. Will the players, of whom many have underwhelmed under three managers, some more, become suddenly better?
I don't think so.
I would be happy to have a period of time where we temper this kind of attitude if only for a longer term idea. I have concerns with regards Pochettino but they aren't set in stone, and I do think that given the players of his choosing, we can replicate the kind of understanding that southampton had. Note understanding, not necessarily results.
It is somewhat irrelevant as a conversation as I can't imagine he will be sacked, nor walk; why would either happen so early in his tenure?
I don't think so.
I would be happy to have a period of time where we temper this kind of attitude if only for a longer term idea. I have concerns with regards Pochettino but they aren't set in stone, and I do think that given the players of his choosing, we can replicate the kind of understanding that southampton had. Note understanding, not necessarily results.
It is somewhat irrelevant as a conversation as I can't imagine he will be sacked, nor walk; why would either happen so early in his tenure?
Poch has obviously failed to convince with his tactics and team selections. Jury def out on the man-management skills too.
However I still like him and want to give him time because he's such a cool customer. AVB always seemed one bad game away from a meltdown, and Sherwood was just way too fucking chippy. Poch doesn't seem overly fazed by anything, good or bad. Best moment was his stonefaced reaction to the rabona.
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However I still like him and want to give him time because he's such a cool customer. AVB always seemed one bad game away from a meltdown, and Sherwood was just way too fucking chippy. Poch doesn't seem overly fazed by anything, good or bad. Best moment was his stonefaced reaction to the rabona.
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I am disagreeing with your interpretation. You said joint third lowest. Which means that at least 2 people are worse, and one person is equally bad. And this was at Southampton. Which is not the same scenario as now. But many clubs were just above him. One late goal in a few games would have made "joint third worst" a much larger pool of people. At this point, he was in the bottom 20% of managers in their December results, last year, with a different club. This year, he is not at Southampton, he is at Tottenham. With a different club, different squad and different schedule. We shall see.
I feel our squad is too small, but that's not something which I blame on Pochettino, more than cumulative circumstances over several years leaving us in an awkward situation. We shall see how he handles December. On a bright note, we can expect some players back during the month, and if Walker and Townsend can be fit that will give us a lot more options for rotation, and likely improve our performance (Walker especially).
I get that you don't rate him, but Levy did, and made him the guy in charge. Levy watches at least as much football as anyone here, actually knows the details we don't about both our club, and others, and with all the information available, has made Pochettino the manager. He's also backed him with enough support that Pochettino feels free to play the line-ups he wants, leaving out whatever players he feels aren't up for it. No whispers of board room dissent, no signs of an imminent sacking. We seem to be thinking that a rough couple of weeks means he's under pressure, based on our external narrative of last year. There is no evidence of that, and fans are just going to have to accept that he's in charge, and Levy wants him to be, and we're just going to have to live with it.
You're an even bigger melt than Claude, it's unbelievableI say save the transfer money and admit you were wrong, sack the ******* and bring FDB or Kloppe in…This is another Martin Jol or maybe worse, Ramos or AVB?. (BTW I am a huge MJ fan, but he is not the manager to maintain top 4 and win trophies)
But it's not gonna happen because the source of everything wrong in this club (i.e., Daniel Levy) is still there
He doesn't rotate the squad once he settles on a starting 11. He's played the same people 3 games in 8 days, was it? It doesn't matter what club, what squad. He's still using them in the exact same way. We'll see, but I'm not hopeful.
We have one of the biggest squads in the league, whether he uses the players or not. Stambouli has had 1 sub app and that's it. I think you're mistaking the fact that he exiles players/doesn't use them with us not having a big squad. I repeat, again, it's one of the biggest in the league. Just look at how many people we have on loan. Not sure why you keep repeating this, as if it's true. It's not.
When on earth did I say that? All I'm saying is he's never had this many fixtures in such a short period of time. Not once. Previous records suggest he's going to struggle, whether we will we'll see.