Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

[TomHotspur]

This is partially what a DOF is supposed to do. A DOF is supposed to have a system of play in mind, is supposed to recruit players that fit that system, is supposed to hire coaches that believe in that system, is supposed to develop players to fit that system, etc.

It's one of the big concerns I've had with Paratici (outside some of the more obvious things). He seems to bring in players he believes will be great (and hey, he's had some definite hits) but he doesn't seem to be recruiting players based upon an underlying belief in a system.

The more damning thing though is his recruitment of managers. Every manager search he's led has been about bringing in, generically, the highest level manager that will accept the position. It's not about finding a coach that will suit the system/style of football he wants to play, it's about the biggest name or the best resume.

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Very good points about Paratici.

It really is hard to understand what real plan he has, if any, when it comes to the decisions he makes.

For example, it’s almost like he has a list of young players throughout Europe that he rates highly, (Sarr, Gil, Udogie) etc and so he goes and buys them, but there’s no real plan as to how they’re actually going to progress to the first team, whether they would suit the Premier League, whether the manager wants them etc.
Now that approach is fine at Juve where you can just harvest young up and coming talent and hope that one or two of them will make the breakthrough and turn into a top player, if they don’t so be it. but it’s absolutely stupid trying to do it at Tottenham where our owners will spend 15/20 million on a youngster and expect the manager to get a tune out of him and for him to play a big part in the first team.

Then any of the major signings he’s made that have been a success really didn’t take that much scouting or nous (Romero Serie A defender of the year, Benta and Kulu Juve boys he knew)

Then you just have a collection of turd signings like Lenglet, Perisic, Danjuma Richarlison.

All in all, there’s more than a whiff of a bluffer off the guy.

 

[Hampshire Spur]

Need to be positive with new manager. Look at Chelsea, they've just hired lampard.

 

[Hairy Cane]

I’m not sure what the exact numbers are, but Newcastle look like world beaters (relative to previous seasons) with basically the same squad, but a new manager.

Makes you wonder

 

[Tomo]

I’m not sure what the exact numbers are, but Newcastle look like world beaters (relative to previous seasons) with basically the same squad, but a new manager.

Makes you wonder

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Yeh getting a manager that suits the player is key. Although at Newcastle that whole squad is playing for its future, they are loaded, every player that doesn’t perform will get kicked out potentially for a big money signing in the summer. If you are Newcastle player you need to be giving everything.

 

[Richard Arlison]

I’m not sure what the exact numbers are, but Newcastle look like world beaters (relative to previous seasons) with basically the same squad, but a new manager.

Makes you wonder

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Squad is younger, more athletic, and hungrier.

When we lose Bentancur and Emerson we lose 80% of the players in the squad with real hunger in the way they play.

Skipp and Porro have it, Kulu at times. Perisic is professional but not hungry.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

If even half of that is true, what the heck are we waiting for? Christmas??

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It's obvious Mrs Perryman we're waiting for Chelsea...just like with Willian..

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[scarletjim]

I’m not sure what the exact numbers are, but Newcastle look like world beaters (relative to previous seasons) with basically the same squad, but a new manager.

Makes you wonder

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I'm not sure about that - last season they brought in Trippier, Bruno Guimaraes and Burn, then this season they've added Isak, Pope, Targett and Botman - pretty much all first team players, so that's most of their first 11 replaced in the last couple of years, including a whole new defence...

Not saying a manager doesn't make a difference, of course he does, but I don't necessarily think they are the best example given the extensive changes to the squad.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

I'm not sure about that - last season they brought in Trippier, Bruno Guimaraes and Burn, then this season they've added Isak, Pope, Targett and Botman - pretty much all first team players, so that's most of their first 11 replaced in the last couple of years, including a whole new defence...

Not saying a manager doesn't make a difference, of course he does, but I don't necessarily think they are the best example given the extensive changes to the squad.

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You with your pesky facts...

 

[Bazali]

No, enough hiring flop managers like Potter and Nuno, we're not Rehoming Charity FC.

Hire a proven quality manager

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Suggestions?

Not being arsy etc but who would you want?

 

[FightingIllini]

I’m not sure what the exact numbers are, but Newcastle look like world beaters (relative to previous seasons) with basically the same squad, but a new manager.

Makes you wonder

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It's a really different squad though.

Howe has transformed the careers of Joelinton and Almiron, that much is true. Saint-Maximin was playing brilliantly on that awful prior team and if anything has faded into the background as the situation has improved.

But Trips, Burn and especially Guimares last January, then Pope, Botman and finally a healthy Isak this year have totally transformed that squad.

Major investment, though they're hardly City or PSG (yet). Howe deserves a ton of credit, he has them playing with a sense of hunger and purpose that has been missing at Spurs for years.

The ethos of the project from above being one absolutely committed to winning makes a huge difference, shameful though the particulars may be.

 

[Richard Arlison]

It's obvious Mrs Perryman we're waiting for Chelsea...just like with Willian..

Marcelo Gallardo enters running for Chelsea job amid talks with candidates

The 47-year-old left former club River Plate last year

www.independent.co.uk

Marcelo Gallardo is the Best Coach You Haven't Heard Of - Urban Pitch

There’s a party going on in Buenos Aires, and leading the dance is River Plate, the team Marcelo Gallardo has coached since 2014. We analyze one of the most successful eras in world soccer.

urbanpitch.com

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This makes sense tbh.

There is a list of qualified managers, let Chelsea make the wrong decision (Boehly is great at that bc he has no clue what he’s doing) then take our pick plus get a manager that is extra motivated against a rival.

 

[Macch]

Awful awful take

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It’s really really not tho

 

[Ionman34]

I'm not sure about that - last season they brought in Trippier, Bruno Guimaraes and Burn, then this season they've added Isak, Pope, Targett and Botman - pretty much all first team players, so that's most of their first 11 replaced in the last couple of years, including a whole new defence...

Not saying a manager doesn't make a difference, of course he does, but I don't necessarily think they are the best example given the extensive changes to the squad.

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They're trading up, in the same way we did from when Jol was manager.
Don't be surprised if they go out and bring in bigger names, particularly if they manage to make CL.

They might not have much in the way of exposure to the World Market, but having CL and a bottomless purse will convince a lot of quality players to take them seriously.

I could actually see them making a bid for Kane if they make CL and we don't.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I have to say I don’t think this is true at all. The minute we show some attacking intent from the off a new manager would be welcome. The ‘match going fans’ have sat through 4 years of a defensive mindset

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Yeah maybe you’re right. We are just beaten down with shit football. It would be nice to just want to go again.

 

[oldwiltshireyid]

I’m not sure what the exact numbers are, but Newcastle look like world beaters (relative to previous seasons) with basically the same squad, but a new manager.

Makes you wonder

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One of the qualities of a good coach is to improve individual players performances , hasn’t really happened here , has it ?

 

[Richard Arlison]

They're trading up, in the same way we did from when Jol was manager.
Don't be surprised if they go out and bring in bigger names, particularly if they manage to make CL.

They might not have much in the way of exposure to the World Market, but having CL and a bottomless purse will convince a lot of quality players to take them seriously.

I could actually see them making a bid for Kane if they make CL and we don't.

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They have Wilson and Isak rotating.

They want runners. Kane and Maddison types don’t fit.

 

[Shadydan]

It’s really really not tho

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You're right, it's fucking awful

 

[Right as Rain]

no, the academy should be there teaching the players how to play in different systems, maybe first half one system second half a different one
the young players need to be able to feel happy playing 3-4-3, or 4-4-2, or any formation, happy to recieve the ball under pressure and know they can pass the 10-20 yds left or right footed
its not about winning thing at that age, its about devolping the whole player

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Oh I know. Also I don't agree with what Antonio Conte was saying, in that he wanted players from the academy ready for him quality-wise. All I am saying is that the academy should be based around our next managers needs. If it is Nagelsmann for example, who plays multiple different systems and formations, then what you are saying would probably happen.

Yes, our next manager must be ready to help develop the players to the next step quality-wise, as they come through

 

[Right as Rain]

This is partially what a DOF is supposed to do. A DOF is supposed to have a system of play in mind, is supposed to recruit players that fit that system, is supposed to hire coaches that believe in that system, is supposed to develop players to fit that system, etc.

It's one of the big concerns I've had with Paratici (outside some of the more obvious things). He seems to bring in players he believes will be great (and hey, he's had some definite hits) but he doesn't seem to be recruiting players based upon an underlying belief in a system.

The more damning thing though is his recruitment of managers. Every manager search he's led has been about bringing in, generically, the highest level manager that will accept the position. It's not about finding a coach that will suit the system/style of football he wants to play, it's about the biggest name or the best resume.

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Exactly, you are spot on. There is a path way out of the situation we are in right now, even with Levy in charge. We just need a DOF with a clear plan, and one that, like you said, must find the exact pieces to play exactly into the structure of the club. Both first team-wise and acadamy-wise. I've had enough of Spurs scattering around directionless, like they're lost in a forest.

They need to get a DOF that aligns with the traditions of the club and the fans' views as well. The DOF also must be up to date with the current best trends/tactics in football in 2023 and understands the situations of clubs on the up like City, Woolwich, Brighton, and Newcastle. That alone would sort out many of the issues Spurs have

 

[FightingIllini]

Exactly, you are spot on. There is a path way out of the situation we are in right now, even with Levy in charge. We just need a DOF with a clear plan, and one that, like you said, must find the exact pieces to play exactly into the structure of the club. Both first team-wise and acadamy-wise. I've had enough of Spurs scattering around directionless, like they're lost in a forest.

They need to get a DOF that aligns with the traditions of the club and the fans' views as well. The DOF also must be up to date with the current best trends/tactics in football in 2023 and understands the situations of clubs on the up like City, Woolwich, Brighton, and Newcastle. That alone would sort out many of the issues Spurs have

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If the target is 4th? Sure, it's possible with some luck. Maybe even with the dead last on the entire continent level of the club's resources being dedicated to the playing squad.

To win the Premier League or the Champions League? No chance, not anymore.

Which means the trophy drought continues forever.

ENIC's success has raised the expectation level to a place that cannot be fulfilled by ENIC's leadership.

We took more points in the league between 2010 and 2014 than 2019 to present. The comparisons get worse from here.

There is no path but massive Sky Sports baiting, Talk Sport pleasing, back pages splashing transfer market hullabaloo. Apologies to the sensitive feelings of people who like to define their football fandom against that sort of thing.