Should also be looking at Thomas Frank in the summer. And he can bring Ivan Toney with him as far as I'm concerned.
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Does any club really have a strategy per se?
Look at our squad at the present time.
For me we need another front player but arguably with our 5, now Gil is gaining some game time, it's just one more unless we say bye to Son.
We need another midfielder plain as day, a first choice goalie and 2 players in the back.
The issue is everyone thinks it has to be the objective best player in the world and yet nobody knows that is.
We need additions but without the right mentality we ain't doing nothing, however much money is pumped into the club.
Our biggest need is character.
God I don’t even want to picture Simeone at Spurs
His team are 4th in a league with 3 good clubs of his club is one.
Poch let his PSG team control him and none of the players listened to him
We could bring in prime Alex Ferguson and the same shit would apply. When are people going to wake up and realise the problem is and always has been the board
Absolutely, there are many teams that have a strategy, a way in which they are going to build the team and what type of football they want to be. Not every team does, but the difference in the better ones is that they generally do. And there are some teams that aren't solely built on character, but it's definitely part of their recruiting process.
We aren't a lock-down defensive team, but we aren't an exciting attacking team. We aren't a team/club built on youth, but we aren't a team that is willing to invest in proven winners and talent either. We aren't in a project phasing building towards something, but we have regularly bought players for the future while we probably most need ready-made starters that can impact a game immediately.
What we have done becomes a negative, downward spiral.
- Fire coach due to decline in performance in the team.
- Hire coach with no apparent "fit" with the direction of the club.
- Coaches come in and have to squeeze more juice out of the lemon, and the club isn't willing to invest into players quickly enough to support the coach because we don't want to invest too heavy in case they don't work out.
- The coach isn't able to work with the combination of players we have to successfully implement their vision.
- We buy players for the future.
- Performances decline and club won't invest anything further because we need to wait to see what next manager wants/needs.
- Repeat at step 1.
Good post.
My biggest worry is the board clearly have no idea where they want to go with things. Jumping from Poch to Mourinho was one thing, but then to go to Nuno and then to Conte.. it’s erratic and wild.
Poch had us punching above our weight and dreaming of things we could have only imagined. People will say “you can’t forget his last 18 months”, but you also can’t forget the 4 years prior to that when he was one of the best coaches around.
Both Tottenham and Poch have had some time apart, seen other people and now it’s time to accept they are the best thing for one another.
Poch had us punching above our weight and dreaming of things we could have only imagined. People will say “you can’t forget his last 18 months”, but you also can’t forget the 4 years prior to that when he was one of the best coaches around.
Both Tottenham and Poch have had some time apart, seen other people and now it’s time to accept they are the best thing for one another.
A few years ago, we found ourselves in the position of having a couple of world class players - Modrid and Bale. They were enough to make us good enough to battle for top 4, but the players around them weren't of the same level.
We chose to sell them to fund a rebuild of the squad and improve the overall quality. A couple of seasons later and we were regulars in the Top 4 with a young squad and taking full advantage of rebuilds by the other top teams.
Once again, we were nearly men, and not quite good enough to get it over the line.
Rather than repeat the turbulent post Bale / Modric seasons, we chose to retain our best players and apply sticky tape solutions around them. Gradually replacing established players with punts on up-and-coming young players.
The club keeps asking our coach to build around Kane and Son - something that hasn't worked in the past, and we continue to give them lower quality players to work with.
We chose to sell them to fund a rebuild of the squad and improve the overall quality. A couple of seasons later and we were regulars in the Top 4 with a young squad and taking full advantage of rebuilds by the other top teams.
Once again, we were nearly men, and not quite good enough to get it over the line.
Rather than repeat the turbulent post Bale / Modric seasons, we chose to retain our best players and apply sticky tape solutions around them. Gradually replacing established players with punts on up-and-coming young players.
The club keeps asking our coach to build around Kane and Son - something that hasn't worked in the past, and we continue to give them lower quality players to work with.
Yeah we bet on Kane and Son which was a reasonable bet to make but we have to accept it hasn't worked and we now need to go in another direction.
The ghost of Poch still lingers over this team.
We should have overhauled the squad much more aggressively.
Whoever it is, can we agree to eliminate any names which have done a turn for the blue scum? Fucking tired of selling out to hire a negative football serial winner who....doesn't win....
Unless we change ownership, or our current ownership massively changes direction which is unlikely, we should just go for a project manager.
The amount of gaps in our squad either now, next summer, or the year after are too many to fill with proven players to make us compete, and we’ll end up going for plan B which will be neither here no there. May as well get a project manager in and sign young kids to develop and play some exciting football again
What will actually happen is we’ll get another pragmatist in that will get a tune out of the squad for another 6 months to paint over the crack, only for the cycle to start again.
The amount of gaps in our squad either now, next summer, or the year after are too many to fill with proven players to make us compete, and we’ll end up going for plan B which will be neither here no there. May as well get a project manager in and sign young kids to develop and play some exciting football again
What will actually happen is we’ll get another pragmatist in that will get a tune out of the squad for another 6 months to paint over the crack, only for the cycle to start again.
I guess Conte would have signed by now if he was going to be here next season. And quite frankly I'm right now happy ha hasn't. Because, well, we all can see why.
So who do we get next year? Or right away.
I don't know. I know what I don't want. I don't want a has been. A coach that is stuck in one way to play and is incapable too play in any other way even if it's called for.
I'm not a big fan of Levy, but I would hope for the next coach to be a Tottenham coach. You know the totally bullshit speech he held after Mourinho about free flowing, Spurs-DNA, that was totally disregarded when getting first Nuno and than Conte.
I don't know who and maybe I shouldn't throw around names. But I will anyway:
- Pochettino (no thanks, I think he was found out, no eye for talent, youth strategy is clearly shit, to stubborn to adapt, but I'm sure it will be him anyway)
- Scaloni (Argentinas coach, don't know his contract situation, but after a world cup gold you might think it would be a natural point in time to move on)
- Potter (not sure he survives the whole season, not really sure about him, seems to have problems making Chelsea deliver, but lots of injuries)
- Gasperini (Atalanta used to play really attractive football, are they still? He's 64, bit too old for my liking)
- De Zerbi (Potters successor att Brighton, has managed to keep the team playing attractive football, and now also score, something Potter has had problems with in all teams)
- Frank (the Danish coach at Brentford, don't know he's style of football, but has really worked wonders)
- Silva (Portoguese, att Fulham, don't know style, but if I mention Frank I must mention him)
- Knutsen (Bodö glimt coach, made them score loads of goals and had great success both in Europe and in Norway)
I don't know, there are lots of coaches out there. But I hope Paratici starts with a vision. This is how Tottenham should play football. Implements this vision in all teams and buy players who fits in that vision.
Based on this we can find a coach that fits the vision. Hopefully a modern leader. I'm a bit fed up with these old fashion, stubborn, despot type of leaders, that we have had the last few years.
So who do we get next year? Or right away.
I don't know. I know what I don't want. I don't want a has been. A coach that is stuck in one way to play and is incapable too play in any other way even if it's called for.
I'm not a big fan of Levy, but I would hope for the next coach to be a Tottenham coach. You know the totally bullshit speech he held after Mourinho about free flowing, Spurs-DNA, that was totally disregarded when getting first Nuno and than Conte.
I don't know who and maybe I shouldn't throw around names. But I will anyway:
- Pochettino (no thanks, I think he was found out, no eye for talent, youth strategy is clearly shit, to stubborn to adapt, but I'm sure it will be him anyway)
- Scaloni (Argentinas coach, don't know his contract situation, but after a world cup gold you might think it would be a natural point in time to move on)
- Potter (not sure he survives the whole season, not really sure about him, seems to have problems making Chelsea deliver, but lots of injuries)
- Gasperini (Atalanta used to play really attractive football, are they still? He's 64, bit too old for my liking)
- De Zerbi (Potters successor att Brighton, has managed to keep the team playing attractive football, and now also score, something Potter has had problems with in all teams)
- Frank (the Danish coach at Brentford, don't know he's style of football, but has really worked wonders)
- Silva (Portoguese, att Fulham, don't know style, but if I mention Frank I must mention him)
- Knutsen (Bodö glimt coach, made them score loads of goals and had great success both in Europe and in Norway)
I don't know, there are lots of coaches out there. But I hope Paratici starts with a vision. This is how Tottenham should play football. Implements this vision in all teams and buy players who fits in that vision.
Based on this we can find a coach that fits the vision. Hopefully a modern leader. I'm a bit fed up with these old fashion, stubborn, despot type of leaders, that we have had the last few years.
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Paratici needs to be signing players for a mould of manager, not Conte, who is clearly waiting for the next job. He doesn't care about the Spurs project, if he did he'd have extended months ago.
Imagine playing under a coach who you know is about to leave unless the club buys better players to replace you. No apparent willingness to improve the players.
Yes the bigger picture is Levy's/ENIC's fault but Conte's position is very close to untenable.
We are two weeks away from an acceptance that he's not extending; just imagine playing out the season with a dead duck manager.
Imagine playing under a coach who you know is about to leave unless the club buys better players to replace you. No apparent willingness to improve the players.
Yes the bigger picture is Levy's/ENIC's fault but Conte's position is very close to untenable.
We are two weeks away from an acceptance that he's not extending; just imagine playing out the season with a dead duck manager.
Winks is fit again and Alli would be available, so....
Marcelo Bielsa for me......I know what happened at Leeds, but I for one would welcome losing 5-4 and watching us play the Spurs way!
I think changes are needed at both ends. It's not an either/or.
Conte needs to go, as does Enic/Levy.
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