Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

[Bill Madrid]

He's nowhere near the level or prick that Jose and Conte are.

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Not even in the same time-space continuum.

He's a VERY funny bloke, he used to do little video snippets for the Spain fans that were very self-effacing, really warm. I've seen him translate that style to English too and it works well.

He's also an "arm around the shoulder" type bloke, especially with younger players. Fiercely loyal to them. The team as a "band of brothers" (in Spanish it's "una piña" - a pineapple, in the sense of something really tight and compact).

There's not the faintest whiff of arrogance or narcissism about him. I don't get the dislike for him on here, I really don't, beyond Spain having an underwhelming World Cup

 

[White Van Jan]

Can’t understand why Thomas Franke is not been suggested more.

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Defensive footie, hit them on the break

we had that with Jose, Conte.

Please, some front foot stuff

At least in the matches we lost we won't die of boredom

 

[Macch]

Not even in the same time-space continuum.

He's a VERY funny bloke, he used to do little video snippets for the Spain fans that were very self-effacing, really warm. I've seen him translate that style to English too and it works well.

He's also an "arm around the shoulder" type bloke, especially with younger players. Fiercely loyal to them. The team as a "band of brothers" (in Spanish it's "una piña" - a pineapple, in the sense of something really tight and compact).

There's not the faintest whiff of arrogance or narcissism about him. I don't get the dislike for him on here, I really don't, beyond Spain having an underwhelming World Cup

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It's not so much Luis Enrique as a person, more so what he represents as a manager given Spurs current situation.

 

[Gatsby]

I'm beginning to think Levy fancies having a go at being manager himself

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Probably the only way he'd be sacked.

 

[Richard Arlison]

Not even in the same time-space continuum.

He's a VERY funny bloke, he used to do little video snippets for the Spain fans that were very self-effacing, really warm. I've seen him translate that style to English too and it works well.

He's also an "arm around the shoulder" type bloke, especially with younger players. Fiercely loyal to them. The team as a "band of brothers" (in Spanish it's "una piña" - a pineapple, in the sense of something really tight and compact).

There's not the faintest whiff of arrogance or narcissism about him. I don't get the dislike for him on here, I really don't, beyond Spain having an underwhelming World Cup

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Agree.

I wasn't sure about him based on Spain but after researching him, he's way above anyone else for 2nd after Nagelsmann IMO.

 

[FightingIllini]

His agent is busy isn’t he?

That’s all I think is happening here.

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Hard to know one way or another, but he's been in the conversation for PL jobs more than I'd realized, that's why I threw all that stuff up there.

That's kind of perpetually true of successful Old Firm managers so a grain of salt is due, but at the very least I think it's evidence against the idea of this being some totally out-of-left-field unknown.

It's an intriguing resume. He'll come to the PL at some point and I'm interested to see how it goes. Do I want Spurs to be the ones to take the risk?

 

[Bill Madrid]

It's not so much Luis Enrique as a person, more so what he represents as a manager given Spurs current situation.

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I think he's a fine manager and as a good mix between the arm-round-the-shoulder and tactical approaches (AKA the Redknapp-Guardiola Scale) as you're likely to find.

I suspect people are focussing on the World Cup and ignoring the fact that he completely rebuilt the team with the brightest young talent. The WC was a bridge too far for them and as I said the other day, it's not his fault that Spain haven't had a proper striker since Fernando Torres.

What could anyone do, Pep Guardiola included, if your sole smoking hot goal threat is Álvaro fucking Morata?

 

[Richard Arlison]

I think he's a fine manager and as a good mix between the arm-round-the shoulder and tactical approaches (AKA the Redknapp-Guardiola Scale) as you're likely to find.

I suspect people are focussing on the World Cup and ignoring the fact that he completely rebuilt the team with the brightest young talent. The WC was a bridge too far for them and as I said the other day, it's not his fault that Spain haven't had a proper striker since Fernando Torres.

What could anyone do, Pep Guardiola included, if your sole smoking hot goal threat is Álvaro fucking Morata?

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That's it, let's start the Luis Enrique IN Campaign.

Who is making the GFX to spam twitter with?

 

[MemphisWill]

From 01/01/2019 to 9th November 2019, Poch took 38 points from 90 (30 games) for a PPG of 1.26
Rodgers 28 games this season yielded 25 points from 28 games for 0.9 ppg.

Over a 38 game season that is 48 points for Spurs and 34 for Leicester.
Poch did that with a team that finished comfortably in 4th, got to a Champions league final and gave him £130m to spend on TND, GLC and Sessegnon.

Yet you'd all have Poch back in a heartbeat, but seemingly rather cut your nads off before accepting Rodgers.


We *probably won't get him.
We *probably won't get some one worse.


*But Levy could just as easily do either.

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I've never been one clamoring for Poch's return. I've never laid the figures out like you have here, thanks for that, but I've always pointed to the fact that CL final aside we had been trending downwards for quite a while under Poch, he seemingly had grown tired of the job and wanted out (saying as much on the eve of the final), and only reluctantly returned after the final and was sacked justly.

I'll always have fond memories of the good years with Pochettino, but I moved on a long time ago - just like he did.

Pointing out that Rodgers isn't as shit as the worst form that got Poch sacked isn't really a good case for hiring Brendan, though.

 

[FightingIllini]

Again, on Enrique:

He has two CAREER seasons of senior club management without a Messi-Neymar-Suarez forward line (which totally pre-defines a style of play for better or worse), the most recent of which was 2013-14.

His Barcelona tenure was tactically defined by transitioning AWAY from Pep-style tiki taka.

His Spain tenure was tactically defined by transitioning back TOWARD Pep-style tiki taka.

We have no idea, and no way to have an idea, of what Enrique would want to do here.

 

[Macch]

I think he's a fine manager and as a good mix between the arm-round-the shoulder and tactical approaches (AKA the Redknapp-Guardiola Scale) as you're likely to find.

I suspect people are focussing on the World Cup and ignoring the fact that he completely rebuilt the team with the brightest young talent. The WC was a bridge too far for them and as I said the other day, it's not his fault that Spain haven't had a proper striker since Fernando Torres.

What could anyone do, Pep Guardiola included, if your sole smoking hot goal threat is Álvaro fucking Morata?

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I'd feel ok about Luis Enrique if we had a young progressive DoF in place.

Sell me on a DoF who's bringing in young attacking players and Luis Enrique is going to mold these young players. Sure maybe.

This club needs a real direction and identity

 

[Richard Arlison]

Again, on Enrique:

He has two CAREER seasons of senior club management without a Messi-Neymar-Suarez forward line (which totally pre-defines a style of play for better or worse), the most recent of which was 2013-14.

His Barcelona tenure was tactically defined by transitioning AWAY from Pep-style tiki taka.

His Spain tenure was tactically defined by transitioning back TOWARD Pep-style tiki taka.

We have no idea, and no way to have an idea, of what Enrique would want to do here.

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Yeah we do:

Possession-based, men forward, dominating the ball, passing and player movement patterns.
Then pressing like mad to get it back and looking for very direct transitions and counterattacks as often as possible.

To start with they will probably be a bit too cautious about losing the ball and over pass. Then if he gets time, they could play some seriously good shit.

We might somehow score less than peak Conte ball but def concede less.

 

[Matt1882]

Well this is proof that a year is a very long time in football!! Most had us nailed on for top 4 this time last year. Yourself (and myself) included.

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I was sceptical Conte would improve our worst players. But as much as any Conte hater tries to deny it, for a decent time, he actually got them playing solid, dependable stuff. The last 10 of 21/22 and first 10 of 22/23 saw us take 46 points from 60 for 2.3 PPG. Over the whole season that's 87 points. That'd be 2nd this season.

But, predictably, you can't keep these donkies playing like that for long.
I think a lot of fans who slag off Conte underestimate just how good of a job he was doing with such poor players week in week out.

 

[FightingIllini]

To start with they will probably be a bit too cautious about losing the ball and over pass.

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This wasn't his Barcelona at all.

He pushed the aging Xavi and Iniesta off to the margins and played much more of a direct, ball-carrying game.

 

[Richard Arlison]

I was sceptical Conte would improve our worst players. But as much as any Conte hater tries to deny it, for a decent time, he actually got them playing solid, dependable stuff. The last 10 of 21/22 and first 10 of 22/23 saw us take 46 points from 60 for 2.3 PPG. Over the whole season that's 87 points. That'd be 2nd this season.

But, predictably, you can't keep these donkies playing like that for long.
I think a lot of fans who slag off Conte underestimate just how good of a job he was doing with such poor players week in week out.

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When Conte arrived those automations had us cooking and I'll always defend him for that period.

What killed him was the death of the fitness coach and us not being able to play 90mins of any game and then the automations got predictable and the players didn't know how to adlib outside them, Conte doesn't seem like has a way to coach them into adlibs.

We ended up tired, predictable and the players were bored themselves.

 

[The Swellhead Spur]

Celtic fan in peace.

Apologies, I couldn't help myself. Also I have alot of Spurs fan friends from London, so whilst not "worried" about your beautiful club taking our wonderful manager, I thought it apt to weigh in with a perspective.

Ange is NOT for you.

He knows it. We know it.

I'm pretty sure you guys know it.

And yes, Im fully expecting all the "wee club / backwater" pish that usually drips out of EPL fans, but I'd like to think Spurs fans are different, and if not, at least aware of their current circumstances.

Ange is not for you for the primary reason of TIME.
He won't get any.

Ange Postecoglous style of football, whilst not an anomaly to the EPL, is extremely specific. Currently, you do not have the players to perform for him. Including , but not limited to, your FB positions, wingers, and centre Mids. Ironically, your CB positions wouldn't bother him. (Thanks for CCV btw, literally the best CB we've had since VVD, and that's not an exaggeration, he's an absolute wall.).

If I may also say, your players don't have the requisite attitude to play for him.
He's a hard ass. Nothing less than 100% sees a player dropped and there's NEVER a complaint from Celtic players. They know the demands They know his mantra. They know his resolve. He demands absolute obedience to his "philosophy" and any notion of disharmony to his footballing ideals is usually met with the subs bench.
Forgive me for saying, but the current players at Tottenham don't exactly exude obedience, or indeed acquiescence to leadership.

Frankly speaking, Ange Postecoglou would need 8 months and a budget of at least 100m.

He's worked absolute wonders with us with a budget of under 40 in two windows. But that's because he knows the market he's shopping in.

With Spurs, you'd need at least DOUBLE that in ONE window, to at least give the Spurs fans some faith. Some proof of his ideas and to see the fruits of his labours.

The EPL is ruthless.



Now, on to the unfortunate truth.

At this moment in time, another Celtic manager is absolutely PERFECT for you.

Yep. Dickhead Rodgers.

And yes, he's a MASSIVE dickhead.

But what he also is, is one of the finest man managers in European football. He can take a squad on its knees and have it playing a great brand of football that blows oppositions away. He gives belief and purpose to players.

What he can't do is sign a fucking player to save his life.
He comes with baggage.

An entourage of halfwits who don't have a FUCKING CLUE what a player looks like.

I'm sure I don't need to go into specifics, as history reads itself quite well.

EVERY team he's managed have a two year "glory" period.
Then.. it's all downhill. He signs shite, keeps playing the shite, and then ends up defending or attacking same shite.

Make no mistake, he CANNOT be allowed to sign players.
A DoF who has the balls to tell him to stfu is essential.

It's literally why he jumped ship from us. The club let him sign nearly 15m worth of pish (real money in our "backwater") and decided to sign players that scouts recommended instead.
He's on record complaining about it.",I don't need anymore wingers" etc etc.


But, I digress.


Ange is not for you.

Rodgers is, but for two seasons MAX.

Then find a manager with an actual fucking plan to bring your club to where it should be.

A European FORCE.

Ta ta and goodbye.

Good luck to yas. Always had a wee soft spot.

Now fuck away off away from Big Ange

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We are going to take Ange off you, and there’s nothing you, Celtic or Ange can DO about it.

You will thank us too.

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Yes we will.

We will take shitty little tinpot Celtics best player to bolster our under 21s.

You're Welcome.

 

[Matt1882]

When Conte arrived those automations had us cooking and I'll always defend him for that period.

What killed him was the death of the fitness coach and us not being able to play 90mins of any game and then the automations got predictable and the players didn't know how to adlib outside them, Conte doesn't seem like has a way to coach them into adlibs.

We ended up tired, predictable and the players were bored themselves.

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What this all says to me, is that these players are capable of a short term lift, but not able to sustain it.
Which is bad, As the next coach, as long as he ain't Nono levels of bad, will probably get a lift out of them and the cycle will just repeat.
The idiot in the high castle will again believe all the average shite IS good and when they fall back to mediocrity, he'll sack the coach again and rinse and repeat, over and over.

 

[Richard Arlison]

Selling tickets for the Enrique bandwagon .. changing my vote now.. who'll join me?!

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All aboard.

Vote changed.

Celtic can keep big foot.

 

[Matt1882]

Celtic fan in peace.

Apologies, I couldn't help myself. Also I have alot of Spurs fan friends from London, so whilst not "worried" about your beautiful club taking our wonderful manager, I thought it apt to weigh in with a perspective.

Ange is NOT for you.

He knows it. We know it.

I'm pretty sure you guys know it.

And yes, Im fully expecting all the "wee club / backwater" pish that usually drips out of EPL fans, but I'd like to think Spurs fans are different, and if not, at least aware of their current circumstances.

Ange is not for you for the primary reason of TIME.
He won't get any.

Ange Postecoglous style of football, whilst not an anomaly to the EPL, is extremely specific. Currently, you do not have the players to perform for him. Including , but not limited to, your FB positions, wingers, and centre Mids. Ironically, your CB positions wouldn't bother him. (Thanks for CCV btw, literally the best CB we've had since VVD, and that's not an exaggeration, he's an absolute wall.).

If I may also say, your players don't have the requisite attitude to play for him.
He's a hard ass. Nothing less than 100% sees a player dropped and there's NEVER a complaint from Celtic players. They know the demands They know his mantra. They know his resolve. He demands absolute obedience to his "philosophy" and any notion of disharmony to his footballing ideals is usually met with the subs bench.
Forgive me for saying, but the current players at Tottenham don't exactly exude obedience, or indeed acquiescence to leadership.

Frankly speaking, Ange Postecoglou would need 8 months and a budget of at least 100m.

He's worked absolute wonders with us with a budget of under 40 in two windows. But that's because he knows the market he's shopping in.

With Spurs, you'd need at least DOUBLE that in ONE window, to at least give the Spurs fans some faith. Some proof of his ideas and to see the fruits of his labours.

The EPL is ruthless.



Now, on to the unfortunate truth.

At this moment in time, another Celtic manager is absolutely PERFECT for you.

Yep. Dickhead Rodgers.

And yes, he's a MASSIVE dickhead.

But what he also is, is one of the finest man managers in European football. He can take a squad on its knees and have it playing a great brand of football that blows oppositions away. He gives belief and purpose to players.

What he can't do is sign a fucking player to save his life.
He comes with baggage.

An entourage of halfwits who don't have a FUCKING CLUE what a player looks like.

I'm sure I don't need to go into specifics, as history reads itself quite well.

EVERY team he's managed have a two year "glory" period.
Then.. it's all downhill. He signs shite, keeps playing the shite, and then ends up defending or attacking same shite.

Make no mistake, he CANNOT be allowed to sign players.
A DoF who has the balls to tell him to stfu is essential.

It's literally why he jumped ship from us. The club let him sign nearly 15m worth of pish (real money in our "backwater") and decided to sign players that scouts recommended instead.
He's on record complaining about it.",I don't need anymore wingers" etc etc.


But, I digress.


Ange is not for you.

Rodgers is, but for two seasons MAX.

Then find a manager with an actual fucking plan to bring your club to where it should be.

A European FORCE.

Ta ta and goodbye.

Good luck to yas. Always had a wee soft spot.

Now fuck away off away from Big Ange

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So you're saying Rodgers is good at working with squads he inherits, but not good at adding players to those squads?

There is 1 man that want's exactly this.

And I think he just came

 

[Thin Lilywhite Duke]

Celtic fan in peace.

Apologies, I couldn't help myself. Also I have alot of Spurs fan friends from London, so whilst not "worried" about your beautiful club taking our wonderful manager, I thought it apt to weigh in with a perspective.

Ange is NOT for you.

He knows it. We know it.

I'm pretty sure you guys know it.

And yes, Im fully expecting all the "wee club / backwater" pish that usually drips out of EPL fans, but I'd like to think Spurs fans are different, and if not, at least aware of their current circumstances.

Ange is not for you for the primary reason of TIME.
He won't get any.

Ange Postecoglous style of football, whilst not an anomaly to the EPL, is extremely specific. Currently, you do not have the players to perform for him. Including , but not limited to, your FB positions, wingers, and centre Mids. Ironically, your CB positions wouldn't bother him. (Thanks for CCV btw, literally the best CB we've had since VVD, and that's not an exaggeration, he's an absolute wall.).

If I may also say, your players don't have the requisite attitude to play for him.
He's a hard ass. Nothing less than 100% sees a player dropped and there's NEVER a complaint from Celtic players. They know the demands They know his mantra. They know his resolve. He demands absolute obedience to his "philosophy" and any notion of disharmony to his footballing ideals is usually met with the subs bench.
Forgive me for saying, but the current players at Tottenham don't exactly exude obedience, or indeed acquiescence to leadership.

Frankly speaking, Ange Postecoglou would need 8 months and a budget of at least 100m.

He's worked absolute wonders with us with a budget of under 40 in two windows. But that's because he knows the market he's shopping in.

With Spurs, you'd need at least DOUBLE that in ONE window, to at least give the Spurs fans some faith. Some proof of his ideas and to see the fruits of his labours.

The EPL is ruthless.



Now, on to the unfortunate truth.

At this moment in time, another Celtic manager is absolutely PERFECT for you.

Yep. Dickhead Rodgers.

And yes, he's a MASSIVE dickhead.

But what he also is, is one of the finest man managers in European football. He can take a squad on its knees and have it playing a great brand of football that blows oppositions away. He gives belief and purpose to players.

What he can't do is sign a fucking player to save his life.
He comes with baggage.

An entourage of halfwits who don't have a FUCKING CLUE what a player looks like.

I'm sure I don't need to go into specifics, as history reads itself quite well.

EVERY team he's managed have a two year "glory" period.
Then.. it's all downhill. He signs shite, keeps playing the shite, and then ends up defending or attacking same shite.

Make no mistake, he CANNOT be allowed to sign players.
A DoF who has the balls to tell him to stfu is essential.

It's literally why he jumped ship from us. The club let him sign nearly 15m worth of pish (real money in our "backwater") and decided to sign players that scouts recommended instead.
He's on record complaining about it.",I don't need anymore wingers" etc etc.


But, I digress.


Ange is not for you.

Rodgers is, but for two seasons MAX.

Then find a manager with an actual fucking plan to bring your club to where it should be.

A European FORCE.

Ta ta and goodbye.

Good luck to yas. Always had a wee soft spot.

Now fuck away off away from Big Ange

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Now I just want Big Ange even more.